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Ancalimon 
PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank)
Posted on 26-May-2010 19:20:21
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Because it had a keyboard with more keys.

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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank)
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PC experience got better. Commodore died.

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@Ancalimon

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Because it had a keyboard with more keys.

Haha

Because they had larger distributor network. And later cheaper prices.

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@Ancalimon

....Commodore did not realize they had a golden egg in their basket.

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because everybody was using them at work...

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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank)
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Because the best product isn't always the winning product.

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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank)
Posted on 26-May-2010 19:31:59
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@Ancalimon

PC was not always the best.

But PC have always been modular.
Many manufactures competing to make the best graphic card.
Many manufactures competing to make the best sound card.
Many manufactures competing to make the best hard-drive controllers.
Many manufactures competing to make the best motherboards.

PC came whit hard-drives, while Amiga computers hard-drives where considered a upgrade.

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PC became (a lot) faster and cheaper.

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@Ancalimon
Amiga(OS) isn't dead.

PC had broader support because Commodore made some big mistakes.

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because Microsoft is smarter then Commodore

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Tomppeli 
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because Microsoft is smarter then Commodore

And that happened only after Tramiel left Commodore.

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Karlos 
Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank)
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The PC didn't kill the Amiga. Commodore did.

Thanks to UAE, the PC is probably doing more to keep the classic Amiga scene alive than most.

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Because commodore had a death wish and most Amigan's believed PPC was king because it was more elegant.

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Posted on 26-May-2010 20:33:21
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Novell, Banyan, Artisoft, and other providers of network operating systems didn't support Commodore's products. Without support for the growing number of distributed systems platforms, there was no place for the Amiga outside the home or TV studio. EDIT: And the introduction of DirectX in Windows 95 and later the popularity of Glide in both DOS and Windows turned PCs into first class gaming systems.

LightWave for Windows NT eliminated any advantage the Amiga had in the 3D space, and Photoshop dominated the image processing space almost as soon as it was released.

The transition from the Prevue Channel (Amiga-based) to the TV Guide Channel (Windows-based) effectively killed the Amiga's commercial presence.

Last edited by Trev on 26-May-2010 at 08:47 PM.

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@clusteruk

I don't think it was just "belief" that PPC was simply better. When it was clear the 68K series was winding down, the choice of PPC v x86 as a successor was driven by many factors other than cost/speed.

Back then, most x86 was nowhere near fast enough to deliver the fast UAE experience we've grown used to since. There was no JIT for starters and the first PC I used that could interpretively run real 68K apps at a speed approaching my 040 was an AMD Thunderbird 800MHz. A real 060 system was significantly faster (also by then I already had a PPC card and software that could take advantage of it, emulating that as well as the 68K didn't seem a realistic prospect then).

On the other hand, in those days PPC emulation of 68K was a lot more promising. Same endianness and the ability to directly map all the 68K usermode registers into the PPC was handy. Interpretive 68K emulation on the PPC was conspicuously faster. Apple had already demonstrated that a much lower spec PPC could provide a reasonable 68K emulation. Looking forwards, it seemed the technical issues of moving to that CPU had already been solved by other people. So, at the time, it did seem like the more sensible choice IMO.

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Posted on 26-May-2010 21:24:47
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@Ancalimon

If Commodore had marketed the Amiga properly as being capable of business use rather than as a console and -"Oh Yeah, it'll do business stuff too" and if Commodore US hadn't taken 50% of everything european commodore units made, the Amiga might have done a lot better.

If Commodore had put a bit of cash the way of the likes of those companies that made/make the progs that still do so well on PC and Mac, or helped out the devs who still wrote for Amiga back in the day, games companies, too, Amiga may have still been up there.

It wasn't the PC that killed (nearly, then) the Amiga. Commodore was the the worst offender, helped along, of course, by the likes of Mehdi Ali and co.

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Posted on 26-May-2010 21:29:25
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Because it hasn't.

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Posted on 26-May-2010 21:30:33
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OS4 and MOS are mostly dead end too imo. Making custom uber expensive hardware which isn't
better than any x86 motherboard isn't a good idea.

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Posted on 26-May-2010 21:33:14
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Because Commodore didn't have a clue.

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Because
PC is short for PanCakes

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