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Ancalimon
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PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:20:21
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| Because it had a keyboard with more keys. Last edited by Ancalimon on 26-May-2010 at 07:20 PM.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:26:56
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PC experience got better. Commodore died. _________________ OpenWindows Initiative. Port PS3 hardware to bananas. For free. Join today and receive expired $50 cupon from AI! |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:27:59
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Because it had a keyboard with more keys. |
Haha
Because they had larger distributor network. And later cheaper prices.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:30:26
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....Commodore did not realize they had a golden egg in their basket. _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:30:27
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| because everybody was using them at work...
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:30:46
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| Because the best product isn't always the winning product.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:31:59
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PC was not always the best.
But PC have always been modular. Many manufactures competing to make the best graphic card. Many manufactures competing to make the best sound card. Many manufactures competing to make the best hard-drive controllers. Many manufactures competing to make the best motherboards.
PC came whit hard-drives, while Amiga computers hard-drives where considered a upgrade. _________________ http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/ Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:41:42
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| PC became (a lot) faster and cheaper. |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:48:46
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| @Ancalimon Amiga(OS) isn't dead.
PC had broader support because Commodore made some big mistakes. _________________
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 19:54:21
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| because Microsoft is smarter then Commodore |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 20:02:23
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because Microsoft is smarter then Commodore |
And that happened only after Tramiel left Commodore. 
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 20:11:33
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| The PC didn't kill the Amiga. Commodore did.
Thanks to UAE, the PC is probably doing more to keep the classic Amiga scene alive than most.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 20:23:59
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| Because commodore had a death wish and most Amigan's believed PPC was king because it was more elegant. Last edited by clusteruk on 26-May-2010 at 08:25 PM.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 20:33:21
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| Novell, Banyan, Artisoft, and other providers of network operating systems didn't support Commodore's products. Without support for the growing number of distributed systems platforms, there was no place for the Amiga outside the home or TV studio. EDIT: And the introduction of DirectX in Windows 95 and later the popularity of Glide in both DOS and Windows turned PCs into first class gaming systems.
LightWave for Windows NT eliminated any advantage the Amiga had in the 3D space, and Photoshop dominated the image processing space almost as soon as it was released.
The transition from the Prevue Channel (Amiga-based) to the TV Guide Channel (Windows-based) effectively killed the Amiga's commercial presence. Last edited by Trev on 26-May-2010 at 08:47 PM.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 20:40:55
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I don't think it was just "belief" that PPC was simply better. When it was clear the 68K series was winding down, the choice of PPC v x86 as a successor was driven by many factors other than cost/speed.
Back then, most x86 was nowhere near fast enough to deliver the fast UAE experience we've grown used to since. There was no JIT for starters and the first PC I used that could interpretively run real 68K apps at a speed approaching my 040 was an AMD Thunderbird 800MHz. A real 060 system was significantly faster (also by then I already had a PPC card and software that could take advantage of it, emulating that as well as the 68K didn't seem a realistic prospect then).
On the other hand, in those days PPC emulation of 68K was a lot more promising. Same endianness and the ability to directly map all the 68K usermode registers into the PPC was handy. Interpretive 68K emulation on the PPC was conspicuously faster. Apple had already demonstrated that a much lower spec PPC could provide a reasonable 68K emulation. Looking forwards, it seemed the technical issues of moving to that CPU had already been solved by other people. So, at the time, it did seem like the more sensible choice IMO. _________________ Doing stupid things for fun... |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 21:24:47
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If Commodore had marketed the Amiga properly as being capable of business use rather than as a console and -"Oh Yeah, it'll do business stuff too" and if Commodore US hadn't taken 50% of everything european commodore units made, the Amiga might have done a lot better.
If Commodore had put a bit of cash the way of the likes of those companies that made/make the progs that still do so well on PC and Mac, or helped out the devs who still wrote for Amiga back in the day, games companies, too, Amiga may have still been up there.
It wasn't the PC that killed (nearly, then) the Amiga. Commodore was the the worst offender, helped along, of course, by the likes of Mehdi Ali and co. _________________ Fred Booth ======================================== A500, A600, A1200 c/w Mediator and 030 AmigaOne and OS4.1 Mac LCII, G4 Powermac running OSX + Amigakit and MorphOS 3.0 Dell Mini 10 Netbook running IcAros and AmigaForever+Amikit+AmigaSys 2006 Macb |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 21:29:25
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 21:30:33
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| OS4 and MOS are mostly dead end too imo. Making custom uber expensive hardware which isn't better than any x86 motherboard isn't a good idea. |
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 21:33:14
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| Because Commodore didn't have a clue.
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Re: PC killed Amiga because ... (fill in the blank) Posted on 26-May-2010 21:40:25
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| Because PC is short for PanCakes |
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