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ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
Posted on 22-Jul-2010 22:34:03
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In case anyone is interested, the source tree is here:
http://github.com/vidarh/ACE

I've made made a few bug fixes, and added a small set of workarounds for the (very small) set of Amiga specific API's that the ACE compiler depends on to get it to run under Linux.

Note that this is *ONLY* a port of the compiler itself, so the result is a cross-compiler for ACE basic programs. Not going to be very useful for most people. I did it mostly becuse I am toying with the idea of making it more portable (Linux and AROS) and adding a x86 backend - it depends on a very small m68k subset. The biggest chunk of work would be converting ca. 7k lines worth of runtime library to C.

(If you don't know what ACE is, it's a compiler for most of AmigaBasic + a number of extensions)

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
Posted on 23-Jul-2010 0:30:21
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Cool! I'd definitely like to see it on AROS. Will be you be adding any additional features like some of the missing graphic objects commands and so forth? And if it could be made to generate PPC-native code... Right now I just need to find a BLink replacement that doesn't GR under AOS4.

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
Posted on 23-Jul-2010 5:34:40
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@Valiant

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Will be you be adding any additional features like some of the missing graphic objects commands and so forth?


We'll see. If it's little enough work, perhaps, and if I come across any interesting source to "port" to it.


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And if it could be made to generate PPC-native code... Right now I just need to find a BLink replacement that doesn't GR under AOS4.


It'd be easy enough to adjust the asm output so it's possible to use another assembler/linker for starters.

PPC code generation for it shouldn't be hard (if you don't worry too much about the most optimized code...), but it's is a bit of work. ACE uses very simple code generation. An x86 version is simpler - there's a near 1-to-1 correspondence for instructions for the most part, so it's just tedious. PPC is a bit more.

There's ca. 1500 lines of calls to a code generation function that uses M68k asm as text strings - that'd need to be replaced with calls to a code generation API. There's also ca. 7K lines of runtime libs in M68k asm, but most of it is straight forward if boring to convert to C...

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
Posted on 23-Jul-2010 19:14:48
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@vidarh

I'm very glad to see people that still value BASIC. It is an important part of computing.

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
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@Mechanic

It's not so much that I value BASIC as that I have a thing for working on compilers, and love "code archeology" - there's so many old basic programs out there it'd be a shame not to be able to let them live on in some form :)

I guess it does have it's place, though.

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
Posted on 24-Jul-2010 2:13:59
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@vidarh

If there's any 'grunt' work that I might be able to help with, I'd be more than happy to...

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
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@Valiant

Once I start work on making the code generator retargetable there will indeed be quite a bit of gruntwork that's fairly simple in changing the current code generator calls.

Last edited by vidarh on 24-Jul-2010 at 06:28 AM.

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
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@vidarh

Quote:

vidarh wrote:
@Valiant

Once I start work on making the code generator retargetable there will indeed be quite a bit of gruntwork that's fairly simple in changing the current code generator calls.


Any further progress on this project?

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
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@Valiant
Sorry I don't have any news on the project but I can answer your old question:

Quote:

Valiant wrote:
@vidarh

Cool! I'd definitely like to see it on AROS. Will be you be adding any additional features like some of the missing graphic objects commands and so forth? And if it could be made to generate PPC-native code... Right now I just need to find a BLink replacement that doesn't GR under AOS4.


I recommend Frank Wille's vlink to replace BLink:

http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vlink/

It's currently maintained/developed, supports several output formats, the source is available and it's portable. Vlink is part of the portable vbcc compiler. There is also Frank Wille's vasm if you need a good portable optimizing assembler.

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Re: ACE (Amiga Basic compiler) compiled as cross compiler on Linux
Posted on 2-Apr-2013 22:25:40
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@vidarh

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I did it mostly becuse I am toying with the idea of making it more portable (Linux and AROS)

Currently vbcc isn't available for AROS, although vlink supports the aros file format.

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