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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 17:59:24
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we had in past... and was great ... but it is no more upgraded it was PC Task .. |
DosBox 68k is only 1/3 as fast (that is still good!), but far more stable and compatible.
Comparison of PC emulators for Amiga (all on AGA, same WinUAE box) with The Doom Benchmark: DosBox 0.74 (NovaCoder) - 6679 realtics (11.1 FPS) PCTask 4.40 Dynamic - 2302 realtics (32.4 FPS)Last edited by pavlor on 16-Oct-2013 at 06:00 PM.
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 19:13:01
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1/3 is really much :P ... you are making an emulation in emulation 8) and pctask video was not too much good ... try the cpu bench im sure will be much better :) i forgot pc task was made all in Asm this slow down the emulation (Jit) plus there are to config some tool types for meke it run much better and optimized for 040 cpu Last edited by tlosm on 16-Oct-2013 at 07:14 PM.
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 19:23:47
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 19:31:17
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i forgot pc task was made all in Asm this slow down the emulation (Jit)
Nonesense.
I dont remeber where i read an article about the Jit when it found an asm code turn off and become interpretative.. _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 19:57:37
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I dont remeber where i read an article about the Jit when it found an asm code turn off and become interpretative.. |
Interpretive emulation wouldn´t be that good as it is on my WinUAE box. With JIT, emulated 68k CPU is roughly as fast as 1/16 of native x86 CPU (single core). PCTask gives me speed near of 486DX 100 MHz, that is arount 1/30 of "native" 68k performance. (all my estimates based on benchmarks I performed)
For comparison, QEMU emulates cca 1/45 of native single core performance (plain dynamic emulation without virtualization or accellerator). |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 19:59:09
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If you have it, please PM me, especially if it can work under OS4Quote:
however on x1k linux will sure give better results and may be possibly rather treated as an objective hardware benchmark, just because os4 doesnt support half of the system. |
Completely agreed, but then again, its only way to see more then 4GB RAM. X1000 can take up to 4x4-16GB.
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i remember some (few) software to encoding video 68k and PowerPC: Wildfire. ok, it's very old, but for some test could be interesting |
Wildfire PPC http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1999/990317-nova.html
Used to dream about in my A1200/28Mhz/FPU days
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 20:04:57
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I don´t know if OS4 supports old WarpOS applications on PA6T. Try it and we will know more. |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 20:40:01
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PCTask is slow in graphics emulation. so you can easy emulate cpu and fpu operation, buit not gfx.
of course thanks to modern x86 power and winuae you can use pc-task greatly, but in game you are limited in gfx. One times with 68040@40 with PC-Task i ran StarTrek - Final unity, but very very slow.. i think now with WinUAE, the grame could be run very well. _________________
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 21:11:34
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I dont remeber where i read an article about the Jit when it found an asm code turn off and become interpretative.. |
That must have been about self-modifying code, not assembly code (there would be a few things to say here, but I won't because this is already OT)._________________ RETREAM - retro dreams for Amiga, Commodore 64 and PC |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 21:18:18
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 21:31:22
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I don´t know if OS4 supports old WarpOS applications on PA6T. Try it and we will know more. |
Sadly, NO. So lucky MorphOS users only._________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 21:52:31
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If you have it, please PM me, especially if it can work under OS4 |
if i have what? |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 22:30:41
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 23:04:59
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no vox ... the Warpos work on Os4 too but on Sam 440 , Amiga One G3/G4, Pegasos 2 _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 16-Oct-2013 23:47:09
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dont think so, have seen something called wildfire on some rubbish cd ive got with another amiga i bought, but this must have been some demo anyway. other than that never used it. |
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 17-Oct-2013 0:06:48
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@vox no vox ... the Warpos work on Os4 too but on Sam 440 , Amiga One G3/G4, Pegasos 2 |
OK then SAM 460 and X1000 :)
Raised it as feature request http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2025
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 17-Oct-2013 0:29:44
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 17-Oct-2013 0:45:31
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Would respond to it, but it was locked thread.
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Yes it is possible but WarpOS support is not a priority at this time. |
Well, one day we hope.
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 17-Oct-2013 11:03:58
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Re: RageMem benchmarks between OS4 machines Posted on 17-Oct-2013 11:18:09
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make the same bench in 640x480
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