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Mechanic 
Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 14:16:05
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@jkirk

But what if the child in the orphanage just went ahead and changed its name to
Smith and started demanding full family recognition, rights, and privileges, and
also declared itself Head-of-Household?

Should the rest of all the families named Smith just shrug and think good thoughts?

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 14:30:38
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Well technically Amiga Inc has the trademark on Amiga Computers. Amiga Toothbrushes do not seem to be trademarked at the moment, so go ahead with Amiga toothbrushes. A trademark is generally for a class or a number of classes of product. Exceptions would be "iconic brands" or companies trying to use the name to confuse the public.

It would be difficult to produce "McDonald's" toilet articles or pretty much anything else. It's fairly complicated. Add to that the fact that brands used to be linked to countries and it's even more confusing. Most people I know would instantly think automobile when they hear the name Commodore because that brand has long been established here. Or Wendy's which is an ice cream chain here and a hamburger place in the US. Or Loewes which sells discount clothes here and discount hardware in the US.

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 14:35:36
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@jkirk

Looks more like someone buys a name Daddy and suddenly becomes your daddy.

More like Shame and Scandal in the family, nice ska tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrsoGze6xaE

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 14:38:10
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Or Loewes which sells discount clothes here and discount hardware in the US.


Complicate that further with Loewe in Germany with a reputation of dealing high end if you like.

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 17:08:27
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@Mechanic

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But what if the child in the orphanage just went ahead and changed its name to Smith and started demanding full family recognition, rights, and privileges, and also declared itself Head-of-Household?


from experience a child cannot change their name legally till they are 18(where i live). even then unless they were legally adopted they would not be allowed to claim anything.

as such this argument falls apart

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Should the rest of all the families named Smith just shrug and think good thoughts?

if legally adopted then yes because the adoption process makes that person equal in the family. if just a name change that person can't step onto the property without permission.

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 17:15:05
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@persia

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Well technically Amiga Inc has the trademark on Amiga Computers. Amiga Toothbrushes do not seem to be trademarked at the moment, so go ahead with Amiga toothbrushes. A trademark is generally for a class or a number of classes of product. Exceptions would be "iconic brands" or companies trying to use the name to confuse the public.


i see what you are saying however the point stands. If amiga inc allows(license) cusa to create (or re-badge) a computer into the amiga family there is nothing anyone can do. well hyperion could contest the license but barring that they are legitimate amiga computers.

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 17:23:10
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@jkirk

Yes, it might be legally Amiga computer.

But as Commandore USA Amiga computer that is not AmigaOS compatible and does not have any chipsets, there wont be many that defines it as a true Amiga.

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 17:30:55
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Yes, it might be legally Amiga computer.
But as Commandore USA Amiga computer that has is not AmigaOS compatible and does not have any chipsets, there wont be many that defines it as a true Amiga.


i remember alot of these same arguments when the amigaone/os4 and genesi/morphos arguments were going on. lol

thing is that don't matter at all if cusa makes a profit they remain in existance. i find it funny that there are so many arguments over a system that has not been released or for that matter created. why don't we wait till there is an actual system then voice our concerns.

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 17:35:18
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@jkirk

To make long story short, exploit`s don`t make to the list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_models_and_variants
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/everyamiga.html

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 30-Jun-2011 17:46:15
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@persia

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persia wrote:
@jkirk

Well technically Amiga Inc has the trademark on Amiga Computers. Amiga Toothbrushes do not seem to be trademarked at the moment, so go ahead with Amiga toothbrushes. A trademark is generally for a class or a number of classes of product. Exceptions would be "iconic brands" or companies trying to use the name to confuse the public.

It would be difficult to produce "McDonald's" toilet articles or pretty much anything else. It's fairly complicated. Add to that the fact that brands used to be linked to countries and it's even more confusing. Most people I know would instantly think automobile when they hear the name Commodore because that brand has long been established here. Or Wendy's which is an ice cream chain here and a hamburger place in the US. Or Loewes which sells discount clothes here and discount hardware in the US.


How about cheese then...


McDonalds Cheese Shop

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Re: Observations by a (semi) outsider on CUSA + Amiga situation
Posted on 17-Mar-2025 3:29:17
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by sundown on 28-Jun-2011 2:22:09

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Fair points, but based on the arguing I see in this forum over platforms, I'm not sure it's something everyone here already knows.Quote:
Or if they do, they just choose to ignore it, in order to argue for the sake of arguing.
Bingo!


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