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BrandonLee 
Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
Posted on 23-Jan-2012 18:01:17
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adding to that, Windows Explorer begins to grow on me a bit. A hybrid of Filer and Win Explorer could be nice.... (dont shoot me...)


Funny you´re saying that, because Windows Explorer is one of the things I can't start to like, no matter how long I use it.
I HATE doing any sort of file task with it.

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Metalheart 
Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
Posted on 23-Jan-2012 19:21:05
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Hmmm... I hear you.

Actualy, I like the way it has previews, and one can choose between lists and thumbs.
I realy dont like the one listview aproach. I like the wat OPUS 4 does it.
But the list tree on the left of Explorer is kinda nice.

So, Filer with two listviews atached together like OPUS4 with a listview and preview stuff like Explorer

Anyway, a bit oftopic I guess....

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Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
Posted on 23-Jan-2012 21:35:44
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@Metalheart

But DOpus doesn't have one listview. It can have as many listers as you want. And you can order them around as you prefer, customise each one, etc.

As for Windows, I like the previews, too. But that's about all. ;)

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OlafS25 
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@All

I got the answer of the person who licensed Magellan years ago. That the port failed was because the main programmer dropped out. They came quite far but had some problems later on because Magellan had hooks deep in the system. The code itself is clean and well-structured.

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BrandonLee 
Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
Posted on 23-Jan-2012 23:11:21
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One thing I don´t/can´t understand: ONE programmer left and nothing was done about it? No report for the community? No "anyone interested in this?" cry for help?

I really don´t understand.

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@BrandonLee

beating a dead horse here

@OlafS25

Would it be possible to use and continue in GuruMeditation work?

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OlafS25 
Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
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@AmiKit

I do not know. I just asked and will post the answer...

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OlafS25 
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@AmiKit

Good news. Greg (owner of DOpus) accepts A$5000 as minimum and opensource it. 99% of Code is C.

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Deniil715 
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I'd also really like Magellan for OS4. It was by far the one program I missed the most when migrating to OS4. Being forced back to the DOpus4 two-lister file manager with far less features sucked

I used to have 4 listers configured as default in Magellan plus I could open FTP sites directly. Everything was just so much better.

I never used Magellan as WB replacement. DOpus is a file manager, not a desktop environment. Always used/use it on a separate screen to always benefit from full screen view without shuffling windows, at the same time as keeping WB clean.

I really miss Magellan. It's a horrible shame how Guru Meditation handled this project! Shame on them! They lost the license too AFAIR.

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Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
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i have sent the contact and all informations to power2people so they can create a bountie for it. Then finally the source is free and everyone can adapt it.

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@Deniil715

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It's a horrible shame how Guru Meditation handled this project! Shame on them!


Blaming this on GuruMeditation is horribly short sighted. There were several developers assigned to this project and they all left leaving GuruMeditation with the blame.

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OlafS25 
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@zerohero

it is not important whom to blame (or not). it will become free now and developers will have the chance to adapt and port it.

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@OlafS25

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it is not important whom to blame (or not).


I feel it's quite important to not blame GuruMeditation here.

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it will become free now and developers will have the chance to adapt and port it.


Which is great.

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Re: Bounty for Directory Opus Magellan II?
Posted on 24-Jan-2012 12:47:09
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Controversial maybe, but isn't Ambient opensource and PPC compiled? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to port Ambient if we can get past the fanboy nonsense?

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@danwood

Ambient reles on mui4 , what mean that for first AROS out of question in that terms (even if there not much mui4 deps, its still mui, and first Zune should reach mui4 level), and for second we already discuss somethere in some topic about muimplayer, why porting of ambient are hard (its use morphos specific parts in 25% of code, do some hacks deep in the system, etc), what mean that in end it can works on other than morphos, but will not provide fully all the stuff. But to be honest, i still hold the hopes to port it to os4 (and later to aros), when mui on os4/aros will reach same level.

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Thanks for the info Kas1e, if any coder can do it, it's you :)

I presume it would still be an easier job than updating Dopus from 68K assembler to PPC (rewriting entirely I guess?) when MUI is up to the standard?

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OlafS25 
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@danwood

I was told that 99% of code is C and it is clean code so I am very positive now

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@danwood

Current Ambient sources are not available on sourceforge.net, and no activity for 3 years, suggests they made some kind of deal with zapek when they got the www.morphos.net domain back. Speculation on my part, yes, but it looks likely with the small amount if info there is.

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@danwood
If they say to Olaf real truth, and its indeed just 1% on assembler, then i somehow sure that after it will opensourced and hosts on some SVN page, then it will be fully rewrite on C very fast (there is a lot of skilled persons who can do that, from top of head: Itix and Piru. Piru already rewrite for example asm-related parts of the PFS, so, if he will motivated enough ..

Anyway, as for me, i think porting of dopus magelan to os3/os4/mos/aros will be more easy in compare with ambient. Because all the devs will in interest, and all the caps will works together.

@all
What gui magellan use btw ? I mean gadtools or what ?


@zerohero
Yep, they make close-sourced branch, but still, even what are open and few years old, are enough for having one more wb replacement. Because basically, lately nothing radically changed in ambient in morphos.

Last edited by kas1e on 24-Jan-2012 at 01:03 PM.

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Great news, the fact that it works in MorphOS without modification would suggest it's clean and system-friendly too. I wonder what breaks it on OS4 yet works on MOS?

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