@blizz1220

thanks for such wonderfoul words ... i can understand you are only a racist anti-Semitic person... reading you words i can only understand

from where you are coming ... from ...

EDIT
Let's stop the name calling! Take a few days off to reflect upon this.

i have to say thank you only to this people for amiga in 2013

Adam Kowalczyk
Alex Carmona
Alexander Kneer
Alexander Lohrmann
Allan Havemose
Álmos Rajnai
Andre Dörffler
Andrea Vallinotto
Andrija Antonijević
Andy Finkel
Barry Walshand
Bart Whitebook
Bill Toner
Bob Burns
Bob Pariseau
Brian Jackson
Bruce Barrett
Bruce Drake
Bryce Nesbitt
Carl Sassenrath
Carolyn Scheppner
Charles Warwick
Chris Green
Chris Morris
Christopher Aldi
Christopher Kossa
Colin Wenzel
Costel Mincea
Craig Makarowski
Csaba Simon Dale Larson
Dale Luck
Dan Baker
Darren Greenwald
Dave Berezowski
Dave Needle
David Haynie
David Joiner
David Junod
David Rey
Davy Wentzler
Deryk Robosson
Detlef Würkner
Doug Walker
Eike M. Lang
Eric Cotton
Frank Wille
Fredrik Wikström
Greg Miller
Gudrun Haage
Hans de Ruiter
Hans-Jörg Frieden
Kaori Kuwata
Kenneth Dyke
Kevin Klop
Lauren Brown
Leo Schwab
Leonard Poma
Lyle Hazelwood
Markus Nerding Markus Pöllmann
Martin Hunt
Martin McKenzie
Martin Merz
Martin Steigerwald
Martin Taillefer
Mary-Ellen Toebes
Massimiliano Tretene
Massimo Tantignone
Matthew Kille
Michael Sinz
Mike Whitcher
Neil Katin
Olaf Barthel
Oliver Roberts
Palmyra Pawlik
Paul Heams
Paul Schifferer
Peter Annuss
Peter Cherna
Peter Gordon
Hartwig Haage
Hedley Davis
Heinz Wrobel
Henning Nielsen Lund
Henrik Isaksson
Ignatios Souvatzis
Jay Denebeim
Jay Miner
Jeff Porter Jens Langner
Jerry Horanoff
Jim Barkley
Jim Cooper
Jim Mackraz
Joanne B. Dow
Jochen Becher
Joe Pillow
John Szucs
John Toebes
Jon Prince
Jörg Strohmayer
Joshua B. Helm
Jürgen Haage
Kaori Kuwata
Karl Churchill
Kenneth Dyke
Philippe-Andre Bourdin
Phillippe Ferrucci
Randell Jesup
Raymond S. Brand
René W. Olsen
Richard Drummond
Robert "RJ" Mical
Ross Vumbaca
Rudolph Riedel
Sam Dicker
Sam Jordan
Scott Wegener
Sebastian Bauer Sebastian Reinfeldt
Simon Archer
Spencer Shanson
Stan Shepard
Stefan Burström
Stefan Falke
Stefan Robl
Steffen Häuser
Stephan Rupprecht
Stéphane Guillard
Stephen Fellner
Steve Beats
Steven Solie
Stuart Ferguson
Sven Ottemann
Thomas Frieden
Thomas Graff Thøger
Thomas Richter
Thore Böckelmann
Tim King
Tobias Abt
Tony Wyatt
Tracy D. McSheery
Valentin Pepelea
William H. M. Parker
William S. Hawes


The following is the list of beta testers who have helped test AmigaOS since version 4.0:

Achim Stegemann
Adam Kowalczyk
Al Stremming
Alan Buxey
Albert Jasinski
Aleksander Czarnowski
Alen Hadzihasanovic
Alex Carmona
Alexander Lohrmann
Alexander Weber
Alexandre Balaban
Alfredo Amendolagine
Álmos Rajnai
Andre Dörffler
Andrea Favini
Andrea Monni
Andrea Palmatè
Andrea Vallinotto
Andreas Loong
Andreas Weyrauch
Andrew Boyarintsev
Andrija Antonijević
Andy Broad
Anthony Bandiera
Anton Preinsack
Antti Korhola
Arkadiusz Hucko
Arturino Mazzei
Bill Borsari
Bill Eaves
Bill Panagouleas
Bill Toner
Björn Hagström
Borut Živkovič
Carl Moppett
Carles Bernardez
Carlos Orois
Csaba Simon
Charles F. Warwick
Chris Dallimore
Chris Handley
Chris Morris
Christoph Gutjahr
Christopher Follett
Christopher Kossa
Colin Ward
Colin Wenzel
Costel Mincea
Damien Stewart
Damir Arh
Damir Dardagan
Daniel Allsopp
Dariusz Wisniewski
Darren Eveland
Darren Glenn
Darren Stevens
Dave Fisher
Dave W. Pitcher David Braconnier
David Burström
David J. Aiau
David Pitcher
David Rey
Davy Wentzler
Denis Troller
Dennis Zweedijk
Deron Kazmaier
Detlef Würkner
Dirk Baeyens
Dirk Stoecker
Doug Moir
Douglas McLaughlin
Dwayne Jarvis
Edgar Schwan
Emmanuel Rey
Enrico Vidale
Fabian Kreitner
Felix Schwarz
Ferran Garcia
Francis Labrie
Frank Wille
Frans van Egmond
Fredrik Nilsson
Gabriele Favrin
Gary Herring
Gaspar Marton Imre
George Sokianos
Gerd Frank
Gregory S. Donner
Guido Jonk
Guvenc Kaplan
Hans de Ruiter
Hans-Jörg Frieden
Heinz Wrobel
Henning Nielsen Lund
Henrik Jacobsson
Herve Dupont
Ignatios Souvatzis
Jacques Vanhove
Jaime Cagigal Bordonaba
James Carroll
Jamie Krueger
Janez Starc
Janne Peräaho
Javier de las Rivas
Jean-Francois Bachelet
Jens Dueholm Christensen
Jens Langner
Jerome Senay
Joakim Nordström
Joanne B. Dow
Jochen Kuse
Jody J. Tierney
Jörg Strohmayer
Johan Banis
Johan Engdahl


Johan Samuelsson
Johannes Geiss
John Scolieri
Joni Halme
Jose Manuel Menendez
Joshua B. Helm
Jürgen Schober
Jürgen Weiß
Juha Niemimäki
Julien Cervellera
Justin Hemmings
Justin Raug Veggerby
Karl Churchill
Karsten Fischer
Karsten Limberg
Ken Wilde
Kendrick Hughes
Konrad Bielski
Kyle Caldock
Kyle Kivi
Kymon Zonias
Larry Keller
Lars Nelson
Louie Dituri
Lyle Hazelwood
Marc Jouault
Marco De Vitis
Marcus Comstedt
Mario Cattaneo
Mariusz Danilewicz
Marko Mihailović
Martin Lafunte
Martin McKenzie
Martin Steigerwald
Martin Wolf
Marton Dosa
Massimiliano Tretene
Massimo Tantignone
Mathias Roslund
Matthew Kille
Matthew Leaman
Matthijs Jansen
Maurizio Lotauro
Michael Boehmer
Michael Carrillo
Michael Christoph
Michael Malyshev
Michael Merkel
Michel De Meerleer
Mick Sutton
Mike Beecham
Ned Kelly
Nick Clover
Nicolas Mendoza
Niels Bache
Nikolaos Damilakis
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
Oleg Sergeev Oliver Roberts
Olrick Lefebvre
Ondrej Zima
Pål Ringkilen
Paolo Suriano
Pascal Rullier
Paul Heams
Paul Sadlik
Paul Sabourenkov
Pavel Svetlik
Pawel Stypula
Peter Gordon
Peter Jensen
Petrus Bergman
Philip Young
Philippe Bourdin
Philippe Ferrucci
Philippe Rouxhet
Piotr Zadora
Rafal Chyla
Ralf Gruner
Ralf Toenjes
Ralph Holzer
Raul Silva
Remco Komduur
René Thol
René W. Olsen
Ricco Clemens
Richard Drummond
Robert Kihl
Robert Mattin
Robert Mustin
Robert T. Dickinson
Robert Wahnsiedler
Robert Williams
Roman Kargin
Ronald Dean Hallman, Jr
Ronald Teune
Ross Vumbaca
Rudolph Riedel
Russ Norrby
Ryan C. Gordon
Sven Ottemann
Sascha Hoogen
Scott Wegener
Sebastian Bauer
Shane Ponting
Simon Archer
Simon Neumann
Simon Tyrrell
Sinan Gurkan
Steen Lund Nielsen
Stefan Falke
Stefan Juhas
Stefan Kost
Stefan Nordlander
Stefan Robl
Stefano Guidetti Steffen Häuser
Stephan Rupprecht
Stephan Scheele
Stéphane Guillard
Stephen Fellner
Stephen Jones
Stephen Robinson
Stephen Umney
Steve Bowman
Steve Harrison
Steven Fuller
Steven Solie
Stuart C. Paterson
Sven K. Harvey
Sylvio Kurze
Tejinder Brar
Terry Palfrey
Thomas Blatt
Thomas Frieden
Thomas Graff Thøger
Thomas Palestig
Thomas Richter
Thomas Wenzel
Thomas Würgler
Thore Böckelmann
Thorsten Freund
Timothy De Groote
Tobias Franke
Tom Crecelius
Tony Aksnes
Tony Wyatt
Tore B. Bjørnsen
Torfinn Ingolfsen
Tuomas Hokka
Uroš Bogataj
Val Marti
Vasileios Kostopoulos
Vicente Gimeno
Viktor Soponyai
Vit Sindlar
Warren T. Katchmar
Wilfred Luesebrink
Xavier Bal
Yurdaer Donmez


Plus Trevor ...

Last edited by Moxee on 18-Jun-2013 at 10:33 PM.

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@tlosm

hanks for such wonderfoul words ... i can understand you are only a racist anti-Semitic person... reading you words i can only understand

Hahahahahahaha ...

Nothing could be further from the truth ...

And I should've said OS4 Talibans

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Hey! Lets watch your tongue here. You are beginning to sound like you are surrounded by empty wine bottles. You need to take a few days off to calm down.

Last edited by Moxee on 18-Jun-2013 at 10:04 PM.

@blizz1220

thanks to you and your friends and i know good who you are and who are your friends ...
i will continue go and show the Sam with Amiga Os4.1 around the nation in exposition s events, and you and your friend will continue writing in the forums/blogs only invidious words to Enrico an Massimiliano... 8) thanks for exist because if was not for person like you i will not have the forces to do what im making ...

THANK YOU

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Last edited by tlosm on 18-Jun-2013 at 06:43 PM.

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@tlosm

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Usually amigans are Geek and not simple users, like the tecnology and know programming , creating music and are gfx artists plus good elettronic tecnichans and be part of this group of people make me be happy and proud because i can learn write and know something that didnt know before... I can write here dozen of nick of really great programmers and people of the past and new community who make me growing up with notions and informations...

if amigans (or those who like to refer to themselves as amigans) are so smart and gifted, why is amiga (or whatever you substitute for it) thirsting so much for simplest contributions instead of being world leading computer platform? this notion dates back to the nineties and in many cases remains valid till this day as it seems. "amigans" are almost religously devoted to the fetish they hold for "amiga" and i dont see anything scary or degrading about admitting it to yourself, its rather an interesting complex.

btw, posting such endless lists of names you hardly prove anything, only make the thread unreadable, i doubt this is what you want to achieve. also bringing up antisemitism or racism as an argument in such a discussion is hardly a reasonable argument and trivializing those problems in comparison. it should be avoided.

@pavlor

Quote:

Ami4be, if my memory serves me right. I don´t think he has anything common with TiNA (or anything else usefull). He and vox in one room, that could be interesting.

Oh yes, famous CUSA promoter Now, without C-USA only the rant book in Italian remains,
with his selection of Amiga history.

Well, could think of some way better people and girls to spend time with Surely, Italy is not that far from Serbia, but would prefer to visit Acube then.

@all

On Ultimate PPC

a) Does it have market? Classic users are more common then NG one, but as far as I remember info, its only for A3000/4000
b) Software support: Nice wishlist, but without Hyperion and MOS Team or big funding its unlikely it will ever run anything
c) 040 onboard - why if target is OS4/MorphOS that have software emu for 68k?
d) Final price might end up more then G4 Mac or SAM board

So it was a nice idea, but on a bumpy road ...

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@vox

Quote:

people and girls

you distinguish between humans and women? :O


Quote:

On Ultimate PPC a) Does it have market? Classic users are more common then NG one, but as far as I remember info, its only for A3000/4000 b) Software support: Nice wishlist, but without Hyperion and MOS Team or big funding its unlikely it will ever run anything c) 040 onboard - why if target is OS4/MorphOS that have software emu for 68k? d) Final price might end up more then G4 Mac or SAM bo

i agree on those points.

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@wawa

Quote:
people and girls

you distinguish between humans and women? :O


He's not wawa it's bad translation from our native language

@wawa

if someone write such words ...
_______________________________________________
I myself would call you zealots ... or even better talibans ...

There is only few people who still post on Amiga forums that
actually know how all Amiga SW and HW work and have
full and complete understanding of Amiga OS.

Cdimauro is one of these people , Toni Wielen is one of these
people , Piru Sintonen is one of these people.Without such people
you will soon end up like the proud DoDo birds
___________________________________________________

Means that the other people who make hardware and softwarelLike Acube, Aeon, and all the team and pople who make Hardware and software running today dont know Amiga HW/ and NG hardware... (this why i write the long list) that people dont understand nothing ? ... or only the persons who Blizz1220 write before are only in the scene and on amigaworld who know something? ....
strange here there is Enrico Vitali and M3x and Frieden plus cloanto guys registered why only this few list of people him wrote about....
Or him is the part of the people who continue blame hyperion, Acube and the orther amigans in some forums in the italian scene?

Strange the first in his list is Cdimauro... really strange ... ... i think i make a real big center..

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@tlosm

Means that the other people who make hardware and softwarelLike Acube, Aeon, and all the team and pople who make Hardware and software running today dont know Amiga HW/ and NG hardware... (this why i write the long list) that people dont understand nothing ? ... or only the persons who Blizz1220 write before are only in the scene and on amigaworld who know something? ....

I never said that ...
You only think that I said that ...
What I will say is that you will probably send some of them running
for cover soon enough with your attitudes to everything NotOS4 related

@blizz1220

But you -did- say on moo:

Quote:

That being said I don't see why anyone should support Trevor anymore , not sinceHyperion AND Trevor TOGETHER made sure that AROS can't be used on a hardware withAmiga name.

So that might help him understand where you are coming from.

btw-you are wrong about that as well.

Look to the Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion (then a VOF) settlement agreement and you'll understand. Trevor had no say in that whatsoever.

#6

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@blizz1220

yes i know only OS 4 and nothing more ... im an amigan from the sect


Look

Look

Look

Look

yes i know only Os 4 and sam 8) bwawawawa
and i can continue :)

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Last edited by tlosm on 18-Jun-2013 at 07:59 PM.

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@number6

But you -did- say on moo:

Quote:
That being said I don't see why anyone should support Trevor anymore , not sinceHyperion AND Trevor TOGETHER made sure that AROS can't be used on a hardware withAmiga name.


So that might help him understand where you are coming from.

btw-you are wrong about that as well.

Look to the Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion (then a VOF) settlement agreement and you'll understand. Trevor had no say in that whatsoever.

#6

He never protested and I know about the agreement and I know a lot
about the law ... I didn't hear Trevor make a protest and it was his money
that made the whole x1000 thing possible ... So I don't think he is LEGALY
responsible but moraly ... And Trevor is not my leader , which is more that
I can say for some people here so I won't hesitate to offer my critics in
a POLITE and CIVILIZED manner

You do realize though that you flame anyone who comes here and dares to
criticize Trevor Dickinson,Hyperion,Ben Herman or
anyone else that is OS4 party official ?

@tlosm

Quote:

Means that the other people who make hardware and softwarelLike Acube, Aeon, and all the team and pople who make Hardware and software running today dont know Amiga HW/ and NG hardware... (this why i write the long list) that people dont understand nothing ? ... or only the persons who Blizz1220 write before are only in the scene and on amigaworld who know something? .... strange here there is Enrico Vitali and M3x and Frieden plus cloanto guys registered why only this few list of people him wrote about.... Or him is the part of the people who continue blame hyperion, Acube and the orther amigans in some forums in the italian scene?

i dont know if people at acube or varisys (who designed x1k comisioned by a-eon) know amiga and its hardware very well. acube, perhaps, they produced minimig (but didnt design it), in case of varisys i really doubt they even wish to know anything. all they need to know is how to design ppc hardware that works with linux (and they openly talked about it in interviews).

in contrary to that toni and piru mentioned by blizz are true experts for sure (toni is developing winuae and aros68k, his knowledge is simply amazing). likely some people working on morphos and involved previously with phase5 or so (which you have omitted in your credit list as it seems) are experts too. developers involved with aros must be experts as well, since they had to reinvent the wheel, most notably another aros68k developer, jason, newcomer to the scene. and last but not least i guess core os4 developers must know something, as they apparently have access to the genuine sources.

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@wawa

I said "some of them" ...

Do I have to make a full list now too ?

@blizz1220

so where's youre place in this "mix" ? , a troll, zealot, taliban, sect , mongo , lamer ?

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@blizz1220

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He's not wawa it's bad translation from our native language

so you are from serbia too. no, i took it for jest actually. ;)

btw. could you use quotation properly? its so easy and your posts are almost non readable without it..

@blizz1220

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You do realize though that you flame anyone who comes here and dares tocriticize Trevor Dickinson,Hyperion,Ben Herman oranyone else that is OS4 party official ?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.

Criticism is fairly constant here, to the point where Hyperion withdrew from posting here after quite an exchange April 2.

And there's nothing wrong at all about you being an avid supporter of AROS. We have forums for AROS and press releases about AROS on a regular basis.

Quote:

POLITE and CIVILIZED

Yep. That's the key. Almost anything can be discussed if we all hold to that.

#6

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@number6

probably him dont know that Aros is coming on Sam too and Morphos on Sam too ...
yes because we are amigans from the sect and only us can know this news

Toaks :

:)

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@Toaks

Quote:

so where's youre place in this "mix" ? , a troll, zealot, taliban, sect , mongo , lamer ?

You get to choose

@wawa

Yes I'm from Belgrade for REAL
Managed to master the quotes

@number6

I R E S P E C T F U L Y disagree about the fair treatment ...

Will try to be more civilized in my posts ...

@tlosm

You sir have all qualities of a moo spammer

Seems like we have new alterego of moospammer aka HL.