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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
Posted on 9-Nov-2014 11:59:22
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@pavlor

I like Reaction look, but my taste is for simpler designs

You can configure MUI to look like Reaction, or even worse . MUI does not impose any particular look on applications.












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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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You can configure MUI to look like Reaction, or even worse


No, I can´t... until I register MUI of course.

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But it works both ways. You cannot improve the look of BOOPSI, even if you could "register" it somehow .

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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But it works both ways. You cannot improve the look of BOOPSI, even if you could "register" it somehow


I fear, I don´t understand. I can change Reaction settings the way I like, it is not the case of unregistred MUI - as I wrote.

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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In fact I have not noticed that this thread is in AmigaOS 4 subforum. Then I apologize for making a mess, and my true response to the original poster is: "As long as your software is AmigaOS 4 only, I don't really care". EOT on my side.

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I dont yet have AOS4.1 computer where i can install MUI what its price and is possible buy with paypal?

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As long as you're looking at GUIs, you might find this an interesting read as well:

Qt vs. MUI vs. Reaction

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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MUI is installed by default in OS4. Some configuration options are not possible without registration. I think you don´t need registration for developing.

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I prefer MUI.

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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@g_kraszewski

Well MUI only looks nice if you get the Key file, but when you register and pay for it, and don't get the Key file, it does not matter how mutch you can configure it.

And no there was no Key file attached to the e-mail, and my reply was simply ignored.



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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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I have to say that to my taste Reaction OS4 look is too retro

But anyway, if it is OS4 app then I have no opinion. Does not matter to me.

(Sorry, I did not check to which forum question was posted to.)

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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It is not true (maybe it is Zune limitation, but giving opinions about MUI having only tried Zune is ridiculous). Images may be inserted in listviews just with escape codes in inserted texts.


That is right. You dont need to subclass list class to add images or widgets to list view.

However, it is good idea to do so because within subclass you can easily dispose images when window goes away. It also encourages object oriented programming.

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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I tried to code in Reaction some years ago and the docs were a nightmare. That was for 3.x so I don't know it's current state on AOS4, it's probably not a fair comparison. To make things even worse some options and settings didn't behave as documented or at least the docs were not clear. I eventually got it like I wanted but had to request help on forums. The projects regarding that still haven't reached a status that can be released BTW....
On the other hand I've never attempted MUI so I can't comment. I remember something about declaring a class where you wanted or something, which made code more clean, maybe it's not exactly that my memory is fuzzy and I'll have to study the GUI systems again when I try to finish my apps (which WILL happen some day ;)).

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Re: I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?
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MUI, without a doubt.

I prefer using MUI both as a coder (Digital Universe - OS4) and as a user.

MUI is much more configurable, though Reaction seems to be catching up.

IMHO MUI can be made to look far better than reaction, but each to their own.

A good point of MUI is that if you need, you can configure a particular application independantly of the main MUI prefs. AFAIK, Reaction cannot do that.

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+1 for ReAction

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Now i going look their documentation. or mainly for MUI i allready found Reaction documents are very nice looking. but difference seems be small.

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It is not true (maybe it is Zune limitation, but giving opinions about MUI having only tried Zune is ridiculous). Images may be inserted in listviews just with escape codes in inserted texts.


I was using MUI 3.8 developer documentation as reference because there isn't any Zune specific documentation and it mentioned no alternative to subclassing for doing this.

The MUIM_Setup and MUIM_Cleanup methods had to be extended to add the calls to MUIM_List_CreateImage and MUIM_List_DeleteImage.

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It is found in MUI_Text documentation where it mentions you can use escape codes to embed images using image spec.

But with vapor macros it only takes few seconds to create new subclass. I dont see problem where even if you had to subclass what is preferred in object oriented programming anyway.

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But with vapor macros it only takes few seconds to create new subclass. I dont see problem where even if you had to subclass what is preferred in object oriented programming anyway.


I wouldn't say it's a huge deal but in my opinion you should only need to subclass if you want to add new functionality to the class in question. For simple stuff like images it shouldn't be required.

It's a long time since I wrote the Zune GUI for diskimage.device but IIRC the MUIM_List_CreateImage method had to be called from within MUIM_Setup or it wouldn't work.

The thread question BTW was "I want know if you prefer MUI or Reaction?" and I was just saying that I prefer ReAction.

Also ReAction is the official GUI system for AmigaOS 4.x. I wouldn't create a MUI based GUI program for AmigaOS 4.x any more than I would create a ReAction based GUI program for MorphOS or AROS.

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The real question here is : What is the framework that make life easier to the programmer. The framework that make the development easier should be the best. Think of a Cocoa kind of simplicity and power for Amiga, even if both are far away from Cocoa what is the one which is the clear winner.

Being able to customise is really not important here.

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