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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 10:31:59
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@pavlor

Sorry, 11 years not 15. Looking back at the pre release of OS4.0 I just can't see much progress *in the OS itself*. Unless you can point at something noteworthy. I'm guess compositing was added fairly recently, so I will grant you that one.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Sorry, 11 years not 15. Looking back at the pre release of OS4.0 I just can't see much progress *in the OS itself*.


2005: Warp3D drivers for Radeon R200 cards (Update5)
2006: Petunia 68k JIT, support for screen dragging (Update6); new memory system with SLAB allocator, 32 bit icons (Final Update)
2007: Shared Objects, Python (July 2007 Update)
2008: Virtual memory, 64bit DOS, compositing, Cairo (4.1)
2010: new compositing effects - fading and drop shadows, notifications, DDC support, AppDir: (4.1 Update1)
2011: USB2.0 (4.1 Update3), improved UAE integration (4.1 Update4)
2012: Auto-update of system components (4.1 Update6)
2013: HD Audio (AmiUpdates)
2014: new filesystem API (AmiUpdates); support for more than 2 GB RAM, new graphics library, improved console (4.1 Final Edition)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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AROS has the most chances to survive? Is that a joke? Because is running on x86 platforms? That doesn't give me any good reason for using AROS. AROS has more devs than normal users.

The problem is that new AmigaOS-like systems are scattered around in 3 different camps, that's the big problem. Imagine all devs under one "Amiga" umbrella.

I don't have any windoze systems at home. My mainly computers are my X1000 and my trusty A1200, which they are sufficient for what I do in my life. Do you use only AROS for all your work?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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AROS has the most chances to survive? Is that a joke?


As open-source, it is not affected by company bankruptcy. Eg. without Hyperion, all legal basis of AmigaOne/AmigaOS4 platform is lost.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Phantom

imagine all under "AmigaOS" now with no options left

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Phantom

you seem not to do much with it except using OWB for browsing

how do you connect new printer to your X1000 without drivers?

how do you exchange documents with (real world)? I have to do that

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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That's why AROS will be so small as it is now. If you think that people will switch to AROS, if AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS vanish some day, you're leaving in a dream. Better to go back to 68k. At least I know that I'll feel like home.

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pavlor 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Phantom

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Better to go back to 68k.


That is exactly what OlafS25 wants to hear - as he is strong supporter of AROS 68k.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Yes I do all my stuff with AEROS + Windows running in Virtualbox.

AEROS for Pi has 1000+ registered users. And most of them not active on Forums.. so extending the audience.

The catering in 3 camps is irrelevant if 1 reaches outsiders.

My first target is to beat Ubuntu in terms of functionally (full package Cloud, Paketmanagement, Store and other things).

So in 2016 I doubt any free linux will be more polished than AROS. At least I am for this.

But again.. Still niche. More is not possible. Maybe 2000users until end of 2016.. Pi2 brings chances.


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pavlor 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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how do you exchange documents with (real world)? I have to do that


AbiWord has some support for MS Word formats. Eg. I can write formated texts with footnotes and copy them to any PC for further work (printing etc.).

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Phantom 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@pavlor

AROS 68k? I'm speaking about the original AmigaOS, not that you mention of course.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@pavlor

Yesssss

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@pavlor

some support perhaps... but even when using different versions of the same office package of a certain well known company you can run in trouble . You can only afford the luxury to use AmigaOS (or any other of our options) when you use it isolated privately at home because of lack of software and modern drivers.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Phantom

Where do you know how "small" Aros is?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@pavlor
That's a list of features for a period which roughly equals the *ENTIRE TIME* of late Commodore Amiga existed? Not too much. (Not to mention most of the things in the list are either came late after huge delays or less advanced/performing than the competition out there, there are very few original features in there.)

Hyperion did a really bad (and slow) job maintaining the OS it was trusted with. I'm saying this both as an Amiga fan, and as a software engineer.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@OlafS25

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some support perhaps...


Well, best support has AROS x86 with DosBox/Win95/MSOffice97.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Phantom

BTW my description of what is not possible includes AmigaOS

You have new modern printer support? really? Where? Link please

Modern Office? where? and do not mention LibreOffice because it is not real and perhaps never will

We have right now all the same problems

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pavlor 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 11:30:20
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That's a list of features for a period which roughly equals the *ENTIRE TIME* of late Commodore Amiga existed? Not too much


You compare Hyperion with Commodore? That is great praise. Even in this comparison OS4 stands well - my point of view of course.


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I'm saying this both as an Amiga fan, and as a software engineer.


And longtime MorphOS user.

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Cheese 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 11:32:55
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@Hyperionmp

Ok, lets apply the "Hyperionmp-filter" (tm) to that post (all parody guys, we know that Hyperionmp's words and promises are always true and fair):

Quote:
The quote a famous writer: "the news of our demise is greatly exaggerated" ;)


Yup, it's true, we're bust.

Quote:
This is the result of an unfortunate administrative mishap by a third party and is in the process of being addressed/cleared up.


We didn't sell enough copies of OS4, so we choose to go bankrupt so we can sell off our assets while dodging our creditors as much as possible.

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This may take a while as everything takes a while in Belgium whilst it comes to administrative and judicial matters.


This may take a while as everything takes a while in Belgium whilst it comes to administrative and judicial matters.

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Those dancing on our grave, sorry guys, no party here ;)


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