@pavlor

No nothing wrong with that, its a free world, well in some countries at least.

Most prebuilt computers comes with a OS of a given type, this has been the case for most of the computer history.

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@Chain-Q

While I would also like to have a public quote for a Sam460 w/o OS4.1 I think the website of Acube is pretty clear of how to obtain a price
Quote:

Available as: version with 1.10 Ghz CPU + AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition version with 1 Ghz CPU + AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition industrial version: prices may vary depending on volumes, please contact us.

Third option is w/o OS4.1. Needs contacting though.
And I think once more ppl asked (seriously) for a Sam460 w/o OS4 Acube will add an according item to their store. They are nice ppl.

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@Thread
It seems - despite lack of any announcement on this - ACube decided to comply with EU regulations, and made it possible to ask for a refund on bundled and unwanted OEM software. They published a PDF about it, which is now also linked in their webshop on the Sam460cr page.

Well done, ACube!

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And now, how many customers will ask for a refund?

@kyle

One of the conditions is that the plastic wrapping must not have been opened.

@kyle

I doubt there are many users buying SAM460 to run MorphOS only but it is good to have refund option.

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Well I've won't be entertaining a refund on my order, in fact I am quite happy with OS4.1 , I barely use my PC nowadays and find the Sam 460 does a lot more stuff than I thought it would in an Amiga environment 😏. in fact I haven't spend this much time using a single computer day in day out since about 1995 when I got an Amiga 1200 the first time round...... so who says you can't make computing a fun and interesting hobby again!!

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@Chain-Q

Are you for real? OEM OS bundles are a fact of life and Microsoft has been pushing them on the masses for years. Paying nearly £18 extra for an OS bundled with a computer is not the end of the world and you have no sympathy from me.

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@BigD

Quote:

BigD wrote: @Chain-Q Are you for real? OEM OS bundles are a fact of life and Microsoft has been pushing them on the masses for years.

But law changed in the meanwhile.
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Paying nearly £18 extra for an OS bundled with a computer is not the end of the world

You can do whatever you want with your money, and let other people decide what they want to do with their money.

For example, they can fund an AROS's bounty with £18.
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and you have no sympathy from me.

Are you serious? Only because a guy want to decide what to do with HIS money?

@cdimauro

Quote:

Only because a guy want to decide what to do with HIS money?

And starts thread here instead of contacting ACube?

@Thread

Relax guys. if you look at the big picture Acube end up as the winner here .

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@pavlor

Quote:

pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: Only because a guy want to decide what to do with HIS money? And starts thread here instead of contacting ACube?

That's a different thing, pavlor.

My sentence was a direct reply this

"Paying nearly £18 extra for an OS bundled with a computer is not the end of the world and you have no sympathy from me."

sentence from BigD.

@pavlor

It is good idea to let AmigaWorld audience to know about this possibility.

Here are the conditions:

Quote:

Customer will receive a refund for the AmigaOS OEM license if : - customer asked for a refund within 30 days from the purchase. This must be done by filling and sending the refund form by email to info@acube-systems.com. - customer didn't NOT open the AmigaOS DVD package. It must still be in its original plastic wrap. - customer ships the AmigaOS DVD package at his own charge to ACube Systems postal address (on ACube Systems website). ACube Systems should not be responsible for any lost package by the postal service. - customer accepts any additionnal fee when refund is submitted by ACube Systems (Paypal fees, bank fees…)

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@itix

Is the Sam460 passively coolable? If so I could imagine some ppl could get interested as the Sam460 (+ssd) would be an option for a true silent system. The cooler sound is the most annoying thing on my mini and the silence is the cool thing on my Efika and Peg1. The powerbook is in between as does not need active cooling all the time but only while busy.

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@cdimauro

Quote:

That's a different thing, pavlor.

That is very topic of this thread.

All looks legal except customer must pay for postal
and any extra charges.Doesn't sound like EU customer
protection law to me.
I think that "customer" could probably inform seller
that he/she doesn't want OS4 with it's hardware but
I suppose that there is piracy issue here because if
OS4 wasn't bundled you could get pirate copy and
use it on said hardware.

@blizz1220
Seems no one actually takes care to read the whole PDF I linked. The scenario you mention is detailed there. You can declare that you don't want OS4 before your Sam460 is shipped, therefore you don't have to pay for sending it back.

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@Zylesea

I think it is. The lack of fan was one of best features on Pegasos/G3 and having small, silent system in your living room is always an advantage.

Now when you said it maybe I could move my Mac mini to another room and access it from living room via VNC or Synergy when I need more powerful sysem. SAM could be just main access point in my living room.

Unfortunately I can not justify price of SAM even with refund. But not bad idea.

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@Chain-Q

Yes , it mentions it as first option.

All seems very correct on ACube side.