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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 13:04:11
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http://www.twitch.tv/theshadowsnose
... seems to be working
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 13:15:38
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 14:34:47
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| on an amiga meeting theey could at least use some amiga or compatible for presentation.. seems even though all claiming how windows is bad, there is no alternative.. good to see trevor comein finally to conclusion, its the software being the showstopper.. edit: looks like there are no news what concerns os4. everything sounds same like for past few years. morphos is at least showing off an actual application on an actual mos machine, even if with a broken display. lol.. Last edited by wawa on 10-Oct-2015 at 03:50 PM.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 20:42:38
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| So any interesting news from this meeting ? _________________ BACK FOR THE FUTURE
http://www.betatesting.it/backforthefuture
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 20:44:43
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A lot of interesting things, it seems :) |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 20:49:28
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| Guys HELL! You didnt know nothing!
Acube-Aeon Tabor ... New Amiga NG Dual Core Wings Remastered Run on AmigaOS 4.x
need more!?!?!
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 20:52:28
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MorphOS 3.10 will probably support more GFX cards and more RAM (cca 200 MB more). MIDI support is also planed.
Edit: MorphOS Team prepares integrated developement enviroment and debugger to ease software developement. Last edited by pavlor on 10-Oct-2015 at 08:57 PM.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 20:54:05
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Acube-Aeon Tabor ... New Amiga NG Dual Core |
How they solved FPU incompatibility of P1022? |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 21:39:27
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I dont know , i m at home not there ... i see many photos of the exposition from my friends on facebook ... but for sure what shocked me is the photos of Wing Remastered running on AmigaOs 4... it means unity or unity api run on Os4 and it can be a great news for porting of unity games or unity player in future Last edited by tlosm on 10-Oct-2015 at 09:39 PM.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 22:25:46
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 22:27:00
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Curb your enthusiasm, it has nothing to do with Unity _________________ This is just like television, only you can see much further. |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 10-Oct-2015 22:43:24
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i will be a great step forward Last edited by tlosm on 10-Oct-2015 at 10:44 PM.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 0:05:56
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| @pavlor Quote:
How they solved FPU incompatibility of P1022? |
They did not (yet?). The presented HW was working with Debian Linux, the PowerPCSPE port. Which is a different and incompatible - binary wise - port to the PowerPC32 port which is known to run on other Amiga-NG hardware. But otherwise it was running with an OK-ish speed (720p video playback, GLXGears) and seemed to be very stable all day long._________________ MorphOS, classic Amiga, demoscene, and stuff "When a bridge is not enough, build a Viaduct!" "Strip the Amiga community of speculation and we can fit every forum on a 720k floppy" (by resle) |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 0:53:10
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Name a motherboard like an island that was described once and never have been found again are they giving us a hint?
I hope that in any case the name was taken from this other meaning instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabor_%28Morocco%29
Last edited by Fransexy on 11-Oct-2015 at 12:55 AM.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 1:32:23
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It also runs earlier Ubuntu powerpc32 flavors and Debian 8 powerpc32. Floating point is emulated on these .
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How they solved FPU incompatibility of P1022? |
They did not (yet?). The presented HW was working with Debian Linux, the PowerPCSPE port. Which is a different and incompatible - binary wise - port to the PowerPC32 port which is known to run on other Amiga-NG hardware. But otherwise it was running with an OK-ish speed (720p video playback, GLXGears) and seemed to be very stable all day long. |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 10:18:48
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The Tabor doesn't doesn't use the classic PowerPC as we know them. They use the "PowerPCSPE"' architecture that lacks the classic FPU with dedicated FPRs found on most other PowerPC systems. It is replaced with a set of "SPE" instructions which perform floating-point operations on the integer registers. SPE stands for Single Processing Engine.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 10:49:15
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Chain-Q wrote: @pavlor Quote:
How they solved FPU incompatibility of P1022? |
They did not (yet?). The presented HW was working with Debian Linux, the PowerPCSPE port. Which is a different and incompatible - binary wise - port to the PowerPC32 port which is known to run on other Amiga-NG hardware. |
The obvious solution is to completely ignore the H/W FPU and let the CPU handle the floating point operations in S/W. At a performance cost of course. |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 11:51:44
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| Looki Looki: MorphOS on AmigaOne X5000
itix: RJ Mical had a look at MorphOS running on X5000 (SAM460 too but it died during demo). RJ was talking with our Intuition guy Jacek, probably about some design decisions back then and now.
Cego: - MorphOS Team is already working on a NG MorphOS system with memory protection, smp,... - MorphOS PowerUp is at version 3.8 and if it will ever be released and when is not decided yet - 3.10 will come with X5000 support and MIDI
kamelito: of course X5000 support in 3.10 which may come before the X5000 release [X5000 not holding MorphOS 3.10 back]. Updated HW support for "new" graphics cards, a new development environment with a debugger[!!!]. More RAM available for application i.e. 200MB. Not sure if I heard it correctly but also heard about more network drivers but I could be wrong.
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 12:04:54
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Where I heard such phrase? Wasn´t it Hyperion´s blog about 4.2? |
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Re: Amiga30 in Neuss (Germany), 10th October Posted on 11-Oct-2015 12:12:00
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Tripos has a tendency to be over-optimistic regarding MorphOS
It will need just two more weeks propably
MorphOS team will certainly deliver "MorphOS NG" but certainly not in near future. And how related to Amiga it still is and what software runs on it (or more propably not) has to be seen. It will be something completely different even to existing MorphOS as I understand it. |
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