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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 20:19:33
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 20:43:25
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 20:48:38
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 20:48:59
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good luck but I've been done waiting for new hardware for my favourite OS for quite a while now and I've been enjoying my NG miggy everyday since the long wait. My NG miggy currently has a much more powerful video card than my uber fast PC so what I personally would like to see is a bounty for developing the much needed drivers and software to speed things up a bit.
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:04:08
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You mean like the infamous Adam "Ack" or whatever his name was? |
No Adam never tried to crowd source his designs, he just couldn't deliver anything but empty promises for whatever the reasons were.
Konstantinos Margaritis aka Feanor was the one who set up the bounty for the 8610 design, and before you accuse him of broken promises, it's worth noting that he delivered on the Altivec optimizations ha made to Mplayer more recently and was careful not to give false expectation on what could be achieved. |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:19:32
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:23:24
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This is the where I fail to understand how any Amiga flavour OS will benefit from moving to x86! |
8 years old computer of my father has 2x faster CPU than X5000/40. Don´t even ask about today price. |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:38:13
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unfortunately you're seriously missing the point of my post. EVERYONE knows that x86 AROS runs on the fastest PC's and they can be bought much cheaper than any of our current PPC options.
like i said in my previous post, I've tried to push cheap hardware and a FREE AROS OS to many people over the years and based on my findings:" IMHO cheap hardware and x86 isn't the answer".
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:42:56
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| @klx300r
Correct, people that like AROS can enjoy a x86 wonder machine today. Don't expect any AmigaOS user to fall over themselves to use it though as most have had their fill of Workbench 3.1 by now. A computer with Windows pre-installed is most likely to stick with Windows installed for most people especially if it has an expensive memory card that requires DirectX 12 to get the most out of it Last edited by BigD on 04-Nov-2015 at 09:44 PM.
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:44:41
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BigD wrote: @klx300r
Correct, people that like AROS can enjoy a x86 wonder machine today. Don't expect any AmigaOS user to fall over themselves to use it though as most have had their fill of Workbench 3.1 by now. A computer with Windows pre-installed is most likely to stick with Windows installed for most people especially if it has an expensive memory card that requires DirectX 12 to get the most out of it |
well that's even another way to look at it I suppose though I personally like to use AROS on my notebook but I suppose I'm biased and non old Amiga users might not have that old connection as I mentioned in my first post aboveLast edited by klx300r on 04-Nov-2015 at 09:58 PM. Last edited by klx300r on 04-Nov-2015 at 09:47 PM.
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:47:38
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I already sent a letter to Bill Buck. But do you think Hyperion would like that organizations involvement? |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:50:50
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T2080, not the T4020 (that is overkill).
And, having spent three months matching up an SB600 to the MPC8641, I am not interested in using a Southbridge on a processor that doesn't require one for a low end board. You see if you can gain traction on your idea.
I already have a firm reviewing the design of the T1040RDB. |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:52:15
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put a PowerPC CPU on an tiny adapter board |
How about a PPC on a PCI-e card to plug into a conventional X64 board?
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 21:57:25
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FREE AROS OS to many people over the years and based on my findings:" IMHO cheap hardware and x86 isn't the answer". |
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IMHO cheap hardware and x86 isn't the answer". |
Now, OS4 has one main problem: expensive out-dated hardware. "x86" is perfect answer. |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 22:01:39
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pavlor wrote: @klx300r
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FREE AROS OS to many people over the years and based on my findings:" IMHO cheap hardware and x86 isn't the answer". |
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IMHO cheap hardware and x86 isn't the answer". |
Now, OS4 has one main problem: expensive out-dated hardware. "x86" is perfect answer. |
yes unfortunately those are my findings from the past 2 years sadly and I've said more than once (& just repeated it again above) I enjoy using AROS on my PC notebook so obviosly in my sample group of approximately 80 or so friends "x86" is NOT the perfect answer" and sadly a FREE OS isn't even the answer coupled with the cheap x86 hardware Last edited by klx300r on 04-Nov-2015 at 10:02 PM.
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 22:02:35
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How about you invest in a laptop AmigaOS project which would be a first for the Amiga market? A-Eon and A-Cube have the desktop AmigaOne market all sewn up to be honest. Other than than that just use AROS on your x86/x64 or whatever Wintel box you've got sitting on your desk or just use Linux or Mac. Making a 21st century Siamese PPC/x64 hybrid system seems like a waste of time when the classic version of AmigaOS can be emulated _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 22:06:16
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Maybe because no one actually wants a Workbench 3.1 experience anymore and if they do they'd prefer to use a Classic Amiga! AmigaOS represents the future and if it requires a PPC machine to run then you buy a new AmigaOne or you use your classic for fun and MacOS/Windows or Linux for modern computing. _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 22:17:09
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Laptops are SO much more difficult. I'll wait to see if that e6500 based project ever gets off the ground.
In the meanwhile, I have already contacted the PCB manufacturing company I use, they say they can do a small board like we have proposed as long as it has no more than 16 layers..
Right now I am looking at BGA to pin socket adapters to see if a carrier board is even necessary.
However, the T2081 doesn't interest me as much though because it is missing some features of the T2080.
And with the T10XX chips, why add unnecessary cost?
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 22:35:40
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And what's the point unless Hyperion will consider an AmigaOS port? Have you contacted them to ask them or does the big blue butterfly mean that market doesn't concern you? Last edited by BigD on 04-Nov-2015 at 10:36 PM.
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Re: Bounty to prototyping a new cheap Motherboard with "Serious" CPU! Phase 1 (Specs) Posted on 4-Nov-2015 22:43:18
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What makes you think Hyperion is adverse to porting their OS to new hardware? They have avoided used hardware.
But they are in business to make a profit, and increased sales would certainly help with that.
Besides, its just an exercise in seeing what can be done.
If it was only supported by MorphOS and Linux, that would be unfortunate, but that thought has not stopped me from investigating it.
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