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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
Posted on 21-Mar-2016 15:15:10
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Good job! Nice to see some progress from the AmigaDeveloper.com programme. Keep up the good work!

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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Great can't wait for the Enhancer Software to be available!

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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Yes, OS4 have a colorwheel.gadget (see Autodoc colorwheel_gc.doc)


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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@Hypex

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OS4 has a ColourWheel!? I never knew this! The system doesn't use it. Well Prefs doesn't when I open Palette.


Ofcourse AmigaOS has a colour wheel, it has had since AmigaOS 3.1 (possibly earlier) , it's used in pointer.prefs and in IconEdit and other places.

Also gradient sliders for creating colours sliders.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@wawa

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ven class act had an appropriate class,


No, colourwheel was always an OS class never third party. Obviously Being BOOPSI it fitted in well with calssact and later reaction, but actually preexists both.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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OS4 has a ColourWheel!? I never knew this! The system doesn't use it. Well Prefs doesn't when I open Palette.

You'll see the color wheel if you go to "Gui Preferences/Effects/Window drop shadows" and click on the "Color" button. It does seem strange that they would include it there but not in the Palette prefs.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@Xenic

It was in OS3 Palette Prefs. When this was completely changed (probably rewritten) for OS4 the colour wheel was removed.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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Good job on this I am glad to see this coming together I am happy to buy as soon as it is a go. GREAT!!!

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@Chris_Y

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Chris_Y wrote:
@Xenic

It was in OS3 Palette Prefs. When this was completely changed (probably rewritten) for OS4 the colour wheel was removed.


That was probably OS3.5+ so not part of the 3.1 source os4 is based on. It's also highly likely it's gadtools not boopsi anyway.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@Severin

http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_30.html

3.0 and definitely BOOPSI, there's never been a GadTools color wheel gadget.

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@Chris_Y

Fair enough, been a long time since I used OS3. My memory is failing, I need a ram upgade.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@Severin

When I use OS3 I'm reminded of how far we've come. People who say OS4 isn't an improvement clearly haven't used it - it's a world apart.

I appreciate A-eon creating updates for OS4 components, but I'm a little confused as to why official OS4 components are being updated by a 3rd party independently, and why Hyperion themselves haven't released any updates since OS4.1FE.

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@Chris_Y

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why Hyperion themselves haven't released any updates since OS4.1FE.


There have been no updates because it was the Final Edition.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@Chris_Y

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When I use OS3 I'm reminded of how far we've come. People who say OS4 isn't an improvement clearly haven't used it - it's a world apart.


thats all fine and good, but the application.library introduces, at least how i see it, a whole new concept how application should be run in an environment, as it seems introducing bloat for rather questionable gains, especially questionable on lower end systems. i mean who in their right mind need to be bothered with notifications , control other running program states or behaviour of screen blankers while playing a game on amiga or being generally just a klick away to be able to check anything for himself at a time he decides is right.

how many worthwhile programs take actually advantage of the features of application.library, to be actually worth to bother with it?

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@Chris_Y

OS3 (or 68k in general) is a different market with different expectations. If you want to sell you must comply to that or people will not buy.

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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olaf, its not a question of market (people might buy whatever as soon as you are able to convince them they are "supporting the platform") but better or worse, more or less appropriate design decisions. on the above example chris has made a remark, about how different os4 now is. the question remains, is it better?

at least it seems it introduces a number or problems when porting application between amiga (whatever system) and os4, which seems to show up with problems coming up when porting chris' version of netsurf.

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@wawa

some have the attitude to buy everything just to "show support" but the majority will react rational, they will look if the improvements are worth the money for them

If they create something that is optimized for 4.X but offering only few advantages to 68k users then they will not sell much, at least not on 3.X. They have to decide priorities, if they think 4.X buyers are enough then be it

But markets and interests 4.X compared to 3.X (68k) are very different

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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thats all fine and good, but the application.library introduces, at least how i see it, a whole new concept how application should be run in an environment, as it seems introducing bloat for rather questionable gains, especially questionable on lower end systems. i mean who in their right mind need to be bothered with notifications , control other running program states or behaviour of screen blankers while playing a game on amiga or being generally just a klick away to be able to check anything for himself at a time he decides is right.

how many worthwhile programs take actually advantage of the features of application.library, to be actually worth to bother with it?


This is a very strange statement. application.library works similarly to commodities.library - a program registers with it if it wants to use it. If it isn't used it isn't taking up memory. If you don't want notifications then don't start up the Ringhio server. If you want the screen blanker to come on in the middle of playing a game... well, that's your problem.

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at least [OS4] seems it introduces a number or problems when porting application between amiga (whatever system) and os4, which seems to show up with problems coming up when porting chris' version of netsurf.


The problems I've encountered are because OS3 is so primitive compared to OS4.

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@Chris_Y

it is not relevant if you think OS 3.X is primitive, users decide

BTW porting between Aros and MorphOS and even 3.X is mostly fairly easy what is not the case for AmigaOS

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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@OlafS25

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it is not relevant if you think OS 3.X is primitive, users decide


It absolutely *is* relevant if I'm developing for it.

Anything which brings it up towards OS4 standards - even a little bit - is certainly welcomed here.

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