@wawa

In the US in 1993, A4000....Price at release: $2399.00.

SO, YES legacy hardware was MORE expensive.
Even without adjusting for inflation.

@wawa

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wawa wrote: @Rob it might have been 1991 or so, (edit: okay it might have been even 1992) but it was bargain, none wanted them anymore. 1994 i had an a1200hd. i bought these computers because they were the only ones i could afford. i couldnt justify a pc.

My brother and I got an A500+ Cartoon Classics pack at the beginning of 1993 for £229 which at the time would have translated to about 550DM yet you claim that you got an A600 before that for around half the price. At this time the A600 without a hard drive was retailing for between £250 and £300 depending on which bundle you went for and that was with discounts of between £50 and £100 applied.

Basically you are saying that you got an A600 for well under less than half it's retail price before it even launched.

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Basically you are saying that you got an A600 for well under less than half it's retail price before it even launched.

Yes, he is so credible.

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@TrevorDick

True.. 4.2 is just a number.. but what would happen if Hyperion instead released AOS4.5??

you could actualy have a many users demanding money back from they promissed v4.2

but its just a number, but I would be carefull when they desite to bump it the next time.

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@wawa

My A4000 purchased in the UK at the beginning of 1993 with the smallest HDD retailed for ~£2300 just after it was released, That was for a fairly low spec version. At the same time the A600 with a small HDD retailed for £455. (Reference Amiga Format February 1993 Issue 43).

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@RWO

As long as they got 4.5 (instead of 4.2) I don't think people would be too bothered.

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True.. 4.2 is just a number..

i think many simply expect features, it was advertised with, such as gallium and smp.

gallium might be considered outweight with warp3d nova development, even though it is a separate third party commercial project, not an inclusive os feature.

@Rob

My Amiga 500 Plus was been buy by me at 700.000 italian lira when a good salary was 1.000.000 at that time.
In proportion the tabor will be right prize ... but in 1991 Information tecnology was really different from today ad amiga was in it max light ....

Ciao

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@wawa

I expect more smp, kick the 2gb of ram barrier and memory protection like is linux, windows or osx ... no more freeze because bad program and free totally the ram from the bad task.
Gallium or 3d or others thing for now is no so important because we have already nova to test

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Window, Linux and Mac all have memory protection and still crash. I will say it is still something to aspire to however but not the holy grail to stability but a step in the right direction.

Any way SMP is running on Aros and will come to a distro soon, and stability with Aros is very good these days as well. Add to that 3D hardware support and very fast processors and it is a no brainer to me to be the platform of choice for those who want to dip their toes.

If Aros could use Amiga name as a flavour of AmigaOS somehow then it would be the spark that would bring huge numbers of people back. But that is just the opinion of a naive fool

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In the mean time I am enjoying building my A3000 video toaster after wanting one for 25 years.

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@TrevorDick

was it A4000 with 68040?

I think I bought 4000/30 with Picasso 2 and a special multiscan monitor for 2000 DM in 1994. At that time it was a lot of money for me, I was studying.

@all

You cannot compare prices today and past 1:1 because people earned lot less back then and computer were more expensive than today, so Amiga was no longer competitive (price, hardware, software base) but the difference was not comparable to today. There was even a commercial market. But everybody can waste the hard earned money for what he wants and nobody has to defend him- or herself for that but it is a hobby and nobody should try to justify it with rationality, would we all pure rational we would not be here

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@iggy

there were two versions... one with 68030 and another one with 68040 but a lot more expensive

@OlafS25

The A4000/030 came in at about £1000 here.

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I think I bought 4000/30 with Picasso 2 and a special multiscan monitor for 2000 DM in 1994.

Was that second hand or some kind of stock clearance deal?

Remember in the evening getting the 11.600Fim from the bank machine to get the A4000'030 with my bro who could retail so it was "cheap".

With that money in the pocket it felt a bit restless before the "cargo-bus" thingie before 21:00.

It's about 2000€ + the change +++ from the times and my cousin allways when visited put it to work. Rendering.. Could not do too much then.

But Noooo! I wan't OS.4.3 and then 6 You.. ;)

Well 4.4 is better, hmm lets say.. Just a moment.

Hopefully the XE is still in and then Really could think of Upgrading the HW too when ever the reason comes available.

Seems to be allways a 2000€ bill.

Well if only those were counted..

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Gallium might be considered out weight with warp3d nova development, even though it is a separate third party commercial project, not an inclusive os feature.

There is few games that use Gallium, some use OpenGl, some use DirectX, just because we have Nova, does make Gallium useless,

So on AmigaOS4.1 Nova,

There is Warp3D Nova, you have old Warp3D, and you have MiniGL, and OpenGL ES and if you feel like you're really brave you have RadeonHD_RM.resource that provides hardware access to the GPU.

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If Aros could use Amiga name as a flavour of AmigaOS somehow then it would be the spark that would bring huge numbers of people back. But that is just the opinion of a naive fool

That would be a good start. But what AROS needs, as well as the other flavors, would be an modernized API, including tools like Java and C#. Anyway you slice it, Amiga has a HUGE hill to climb. Oh, and a virginal sacrifice at the top of that hill wouldn't hurt any either. ;)

One thing odd is really details of AmigaOS 4.2 development seem to have stop since Final Edition, It was nice to see the odd update from Hyperion on there blog now and again where it was up to. example
http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz/?p=1184
http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz/?p=863

Plus I always feel bad for Steve Solie at Amiwest not being able to really tell us much. I hope this year we get some detail on development.

But I think really Os4.1FE update 1 with Enhancer Software 1.2 feels like 4.2 when I compare to the original OS4.1 that came with my X1000 5 years ago. There has been a lot of progress and now really in reality what where waiting for is AmigaOS 4.3 (if that makes sense).

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AmigaOS - 3.0 - 3.1 - 3.5 - 3.9

So why not, AmigaOS - 4.0 - 4.1 - 4.5 - 4.9

4.2 is therefore not necessary, in terms of AmigaOS survival...

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