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Gmeanie 
Phase 5 ban?
Posted on 29-Jan-2018 13:53:55
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Have any of you been banned from Posting on the Phase 5 Facebook group?

I was having a discussion with him about Supply and Demand bringing prices down if he releases his boards again and I was banned from posting?
I am pretty sure I wasn't even rude about it.

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Re: Phase 5 ban?
Posted on 29-Jan-2018 13:59:54
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Give it up mate that crap is never going to happen. To expensive and much better solutions on the horizon

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Rob 
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Posted on 29-Jan-2018 17:59:57
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@Gmeanie

Forget about it. It's not like Fake 5 were ever going to deliver any of those products anyway.

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Fairdinkem 
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Posted on 30-Jan-2018 6:13:57
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@Rob

Yeah I noticed he deleted your post, he doesn’t like anyone questioning or challenging them to prove they have a product or able to deliver the goods.

All they seem to do is post pictures of unpopulated boards and then post excessively long rants about trusting them and not anyone else etc.

I would trust them if this is how they treat people just asking a question or giving a bit of criticism.

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Re: Phase 5 ban?
Posted on 30-Jan-2018 9:05:06
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Yep, he (let's be realistic, it's a one-man disaster) has banned lots of people from the page for asking questions, or even hinting at issues. Apparently he has even banned some people who have never posted on his page or said anything about him, but who are Facebook friends with someone he doesn't like.

It's not going to happen with that goon in charge so don't get your hopes up.

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Posted on 31-Jan-2018 11:31:48
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@Daedalus

Yes, somehow i really doubt this version off phase 5 to be serious

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It's really weird the way every post they make is just a rant about people who challenge how 'real' they are.

If it wasn't for that, I would actually believe they were genuine, as they've clearly had these new boards made up.

Absolutely bizarre behaviour for a business (?) that supposedly wants to be taken seriously.

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Rob 
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@DruggedBunny

I became doubtful of their ability to deliver about the time they started announcing that they'd be bringing back Phase 5 products from 2 decades ago. There are so many reasons why it wouldn't or couldn't be done. ROHS, scarcity and cost of major components required and the huge amount of money necessary to get things started.

Making blank PCB was about the only thing they could realistically achieve and they even failed to get that right.

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m0lebrain 
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@Gmeanie

I try to avoid that group, but it is hard not to watch the daily drama though :)

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outrun1978 
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@Gmeanie

nearly every Amiga user is on a banned list from the new Phake 5. We ought to be very careful because apparently we are all going to be sued big time.

For me any hint of credibility went out of the window when they turned up at Amiga 32 at about 4pm in the afternoon. I mean come on, if you are trying to get people to spend EUR1,0000 on a brand new card and the public as a whole are sceptical anyway, you need to act like a professional company would and work towards challenging that scepticism by perhaps demonstrating a working prototype, or even at least turn up on time..

i'd be very wary of giving this company any cash if i am honest

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Rob 
Re: Phase 5 ban?
Posted on 5-Feb-2018 1:21:39
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Some issues with Fake5 and their so called plans.

1. The designs are from way before ROHS.

2. Many of the main components are not produced any more, are difficult and expensive to source and may not be ROHS compliant.

3. DCE own the rights to the hardware.

4. Ralph Schmidt owns the right to at least the B/CSPPC bios and maybe firmware on other cards.

5. While the guy once worked for Phase, and so I'm told Bplan, he was never involved in the hardware design and most likely doesn't have the skills to design new hardware.

6. It is rumoured that he has mental health issues.

7. He has managed to have some blank BPPC PCBs manufactured. One guy purchased some but found they are missing the ground layer that should be sandwiched between the PCB layers. When the purchaser contacted Fake 5 in an attempt to find out why this was and if it could be resolved he was met with denial was even told that he must have damaged the board himself.

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eliyahu 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2018 2:13:30
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@outrun1978

i haven't been following this closely... have they started taking orders, or is it just marketing at this point?

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If this guy was real he would be here.

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broadblues 
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@Rob

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6. It is rumoured that he has mental health issues.


So do up to 25% of the population, your other 6 reasons were plenty good enough without having throw that predjudice in.

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outrun1978 
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@eliyahu

I believe they haven't started taking orders just yet.... however again I would be very very wary of handing over any cash until people see a working card in action. What I have seen certainly from their Facebook posts doesn't inspire me with confidence or does much to allay my skepticism.

Personally and given the high costs of the projected cost of these cards, if i were stuck on the fence and desperately wanting a PPC based card, i would give this a miss and invest the cash in the X5000, that after all is coming from an established and reputable source and as am sure you will agree Eliyahu, the X5000 is providing many hours of enjoyment

For those curious about the projected prices of these cards:


http://amigaalive.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/phase-5-cyberstorm-ppc-2-cyberstorm-mk.html

There is also a link towards the bottom of the article for more on the soap opera....


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eliyahu 
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@outrun1978

thanks for helping get me up to date on all of this. i was just curious. i agree about the X5000, by the way. given the prices phase5 are projecting, i'm not sure i'd splash that kind of cash on an accelerator over a new A1 system. but it hardly matters since they haven't shipped anything yet.

if and when they do, i'll start paying attention then.

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Posted on 5-Feb-2018 19:38:46
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@eliyahu

I wouldnt touch anything P5 proclaims until they can produce and demostrate working cards.
And tbh I wouldnt touch it until someone I trust post about it on these forums or thru their youtube channels.

A video made by P5 themselves would not suffice.

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Rob 
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@broadblues

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So do up to 25% of the population, your other 6 reasons were plenty good enough without having throw that predjudice in.


I didn't mean to cause any offence to anyone and realise that anyone of us could be affected at some point in our lives. I only added what I had read elsewhere to help try and build up a better picture of what's going on. I think it is more likely that this is an elaborate coping mechanism rather than him maliciously intending to deceive anyone.

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Drewlio77 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2018 22:00:23
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@Rob

I am not offended. And it just so happens I don't care for the number 5 at all. I would trust them more if they were called Phase 6 or even Phase 4.

No Worries my friend :)

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Fairdinkem 
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@Gmeanie

Have you seen his latest rant on Facebook with pictures of cows etc what is he going on about because I have no idea at all?

Just release a product already.

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