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Re: Buy out AmigaOS once and for all?
Posted on 10-Feb-2018 18:19:15
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Joined: 18-Dec-2007
Posts: 1143
From: N-Space


not precisely the same, but at least something near.

I do something similar with bash. My .bashrc file contains:

shopt -s cdable_vars

function assign {
if [ $# -eq 1 ]; then
eval value=\$$1
if [ $value ]; then
echo $value
elif [ $# -eq 2 ]; then
eval value=\$$1
if [ $2 == '-exists' ]; then
if [ $value ]; then
echo $value
elif [ $2 == '-remove' ]; then
unset $1
elif [ $value ]; then
echo "'$1' is already set: use -replace to override"
export $1=$2
elif [ $# -eq 3 ]; then
eval value=\$$1
if [ $3 == '-replace' ]; then
export $1=$2
echo 'assign: usage: assign NAME [-exists | TARGET [-replace] | -remove]'

bison@home ~ $ assign foo /usr/local/bin
bison@home ~ $ cd foo
bison@home /usr/local/bin $ cd
bison@home ~ $ assign foo -exists
bison@home ~ $ assign foo -remove
bison@home ~ $ assign foo -exists
bison@home ~ $

Updated for posterity. This could be made to be a lot closer to Amiga syntax, if that's what you want. What I wanted is an assign command that fits in with Linux/Unix userspace without looking out of place, hence the syntax changes.

Last edited by bison on 09-Sep-2018 at 10:24 PM.

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Re: Buy out AmigaOS once and for all?
Posted on 10-Feb-2018 23:53:53
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Posts: 500
From: shanghai


OlafS25 wrote:

As became obvious with the "almost or never bankruptcy" ;) Hyperion has no real office, Full-time developers do not exist either and most work is done by volunteers for free

This is the "company" AmigaOS has been in the hands of for the last 15 years.

How is this any different than leaving AmigaOS in the hands of the opensource community?

I can tell you how it is the same:

- The open source community also has no real offices.
- In the open source community, most work is also done by volunteers for free.

I can also tell you how it's not:

- In the open source community you get daily builds. Not a build every 2 years (maybe).
- In the open source community you don't have to pay 30, 40, 100 euro per release.


Agami wrote:

When it comes to M&A's the most common rule of thumb for a revenue generating business it to take the most recent year's revenue and times that by five.

Almost correct. Actually it's the past fiscal year, to be taken into account. Doesn't matter if your company had a decade of glorious income, it's last year's revenue that matters. In Hyperion's case that's probably pocket change. Companies with no revenue don't sell the company itself, they sell the assets one by one until the company is left a hollow shell, creditors are repaid where possible, and then the company gets folded.

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Re: Buy out AmigaOS once and for all?
Posted on 11-Feb-2018 13:29:39
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Posts: 4455
From: UK


A-EON provide the money and leadership for development so the state of Hyperion's offices/company structure is almost irrelevant at this point. They are a management/legal company that holds and defends the IP while out sourcing the work to others. They are like a positive and pro-active Amiga Inc.IMHO.

Open Sourcing would lead to a final fragmentation of assets and would lead to AROS vs AmigaOS Open Source competition where AmigaOS would stumble and both would likely cease to exist in 10 years. AmigaOS is not Linux it's more like RISC OS therefore Hyperion should port AmigaOS to ARM and the Raspberry Pi to get people to try it but Open Source wouldn't necessarily speed that up or offer a product on par with RISC OS.

Last edited by BigD on 11-Feb-2018 at 01:33 PM.
Last edited by BigD on 11-Feb-2018 at 01:32 PM.

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Re: Buy out AmigaOS once and for all?
Posted on 11-Feb-2018 16:06:04
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Joined: 20-Jul-2004
Posts: 4229
From: Portsmouth England



Let me rephrase what broadblues said, he's too polite for his own good sometimes:

You are assuming the owners are sane.

Please don't use my words to express your predjudices. You're entitled to your opinion, but please express it as *your* opinion, not a "interpretation" of mine.

BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad

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Re: Buy out AmigaOS once and for all?
Posted on 11-Feb-2018 17:05:42
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Joined: 1-Jun-2013
Posts: 619
From: USA

@ Thread
AmigaOS on:

1. It has to be on x86 it's the only way to go.
2. Only Powerpc can provide compatibility and must stay on that.
3. ARM is cheap and can get more users.
4. It must be ported to what is on or under my desk.

Perhaps agreement should be made on hardware first?
Embedded system?
PeeCee motherboard?
Something different to set it aside from the crowd?

Something all 4 OS's can collaborate on and compete on the same play field.


Tinkering with computers.

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Re: Buy out AmigaOS once and for all?
Posted on 11-Feb-2018 18:10:02
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You're entitled to your opinion, but please express it as *your* opinion, not a "interpretation" of mine.

Didn't mean to imply anything about your opinion, I'm aware you're trying very hard not to see the insanity ;)

Sorry, honest mistake.

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