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Ned 
OS4.1 Final booting problem - Solved
Posted on 15-Apr-2018 15:40:47
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From: Arlington, Texas USA

Recently I had to replace my boot disk. After having done so, I began to rebuild it. The first thing I tried was to partition it, format it, and then reload my boot partition from a backup. This did not work. I then tried to reinstall from the 4.1 Final CD. This also failed. In both cases my boot up looks something like this:
It scans both IDE buses and finds 3 devices.
Booting.
It scans both buses again and finds 3 devices.
Reading sectors
1
2
3
....
258 or something (it scrolls to fast. In a normal boot I don't ever remember seeing it talk about reading sectors like this)
Found AmigaOS4 second level bootloader.
FLB: SLB loaded; now launching it.
...
A1 second-level booter V2.
...
No config files found in any supported media/device!
No configuration file found in any partitions.
Press any key to continue

Has anyone ever had this problem and can give me some idea as to what is going wrong? I' am a complete loss as to what to try next.
Thanks.

Last edited by Ned on 17-Apr-2018 at 09:10 PM.

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lionstorm 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 15-Apr-2018 20:35:47
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@Ned

telling us about your config/machine might help...

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Ned 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 15-Apr-2018 21:55:27
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@lionstorm

Well, I'm not exactly sure what you are interested in but I guess I would call it a stock
micro A1c. I has 256 MB of memory and runs at 800 MHz. The first IDE bus has 2 devices, the master is a 60 GB drive with 7 partitions on it (6 for the OS and data and 1 for SWAP) and the slave is a 698 GB drive in a removable tray in an enclosure which serves as my backup medium. The second IDE bus has one master device which is a Sony CD-RW drive. I can't think of anything else of interest, but let me know if I missed something.


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jabirulo 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 12:49:50
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@Ned

Maybe your Uboot envvars don't point to the correct bootable device:
boot1=...
boot2=...
boot3=...

Can you post here your boot envvars (printenv)?

Is the botobale flag set on your bootable OS volume?

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petrol 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 13:04:31
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@Ned

Hi,

Please have a look on the OS4 support forum here !
It seems that raziel had the same problem than you in the past.

Regards,
Petrol.

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Xenic 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 13:54:55
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@Ned
Did you check the jumpers on the back of your new drive to be sure it's set as "Master"?


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Ned 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 14:28:45
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Thanks for the last 3 posts. I'll try and look at them all later on today when I have time to work on it.


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Hypex 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 15:37:29
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@Ned

From your description it can't find Kickstart. In any of the boot sources. It is strange it happens on both HD and CD. Check all your cables are okay. Jumpers for master/slave, etc.

What was you rebuilding it from? Cause it sounds as if sometihng was working at one stage. Somewhere.

Last edited by Hypex on 17-Apr-2018 at 02:59 PM.

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Ned 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 21:44:19
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@jabirulo

My Amiga boot options are:
Boot Device 1: Onboard VIA IDE CDROM
Boot Device 2: Onboard VIA IDE Disk
Boot Device 3: none

I went into Media Toolbox and have verified that DH0 (my boot partition) is marked as Automount and as Bootable. It is formatted as FFS with Long filenames.

The following was generated by booting up from CDROM, opening a shell, and executing the command "nvgetvar >flash1:varlis.txt", and then copy and pasting it into this message:
bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
bootdelay=0
baudrate=115200
preboot=
stdout=vga
stdin=ps2kbd
ide_doreset=on
ide_cd_timeout=30
menucmd=menu
bootmethod=boota
video_num=1
ethact=3Com 3c920c#0
video_activate=agp
serial1_address=3f8
serial2_address=2f8
parallel_mode=0
parallel_address=378
usb0_enable=on
usb1_enable=off
usb_use_header=0
ide_maxbus=2
ide_swap=0
ethaddr=00:09:D2:28:03:1A
ipaddr=
serverip=
boot1=cdrom
boot2=ide
boot3=
boot_config=Default
boota_timeout=10
boot_method=boota
menuboot_delay=3
os4_commandline=debuglevel=0
bootargs=root=/dev/ram rw ramdisk=4096
pci_irqa=9
pci_irqa_select=level
pci_irqb=10
pci_irqb_select=level
pci_irqc=11
pci_irqc_select=level
pci_irqd=7
pci_irqd_select=level
agp_enable=on
agp_sideband=off
agp_speed=2x

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Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 21:47:44
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@petrol

I looked at the post that you referred to, but I do not think it is relevant. His problem seems to be related to having formatted his boot disk as SFS\2. I am using FFS with Long Filenames.

Ned

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Ned 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 21:48:47
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@Xenic

I checked my jumpers and my boot disk is set to Master.

Ned

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Ned 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 16-Apr-2018 21:59:34
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@Hypex

I'm not sure why it can't find Kickstart. When I boot up from the CD, open a shell, and do a dir on my boot partition, I clearly see a Kickstart directory there and that directory has 62 files in 9383 KB or 9570 blocks.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that this happens on both the HD and CD. I can boot up just fine from my official AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition CD. I can then go through the process of doing a quick format of my boot partition, and then the install process. But when the install is finished and it asks me to remove the CD before finishing, this is where I have the problem and get the problems I originally described as the system attempts to boot from the just loaded system.

When you ask "What qas you rebuilding it form", I'm lost since I don't know what a "qas" is.

Ned

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Hypex 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem
Posted on 17-Apr-2018 15:14:00
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@Ned

Quote:
I'm not sure what you mean when you say that this happens on both the HD and CD.


This:

Quote:
I then tried to reinstall from the 4.1 Final CD. This also failed. In both cases my boot up looks something like this:


So I took this to mean that the CD booting also failed as well as the HD.

Quote:
I'm lost since I don't know what a


That's typo for "was". I just made the same mistake. If I'd known I would have fixed it.

I was thinking it might be a DMA problem but no DMA is activated till after Kickstart.

The other thing I can think of is the SLB. Have you installed an SLB onto the new boot drive? Where the SLB sits may cause an issue. I don't recall if it needs to be on the same drive as the boot volume but that wouldn't surprise me. You could install SLB to both HD drives. Then in that fails just keep to boot drive.

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Ned 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem - Solved
Posted on 17-Apr-2018 21:09:26
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@Hypex

Sorry about the confusion when I said I had the same problem reinstalling from the OS 4.1 Final CD. What I meant was that loading my boot partition from either my most recent backup or loading my boot partition from the CD both exhibited the same problem when I then went to boot the system from the hard drive.

I feel bad about not even thinking about the need to install the SLB on my new boot drive. I seem to remember that I had this problem once before, but I had forgotten about that. I went into media toolbox, selected Edit RDB/Reinstall, and then installed slb_v2 onto the boot drive. My problem has been fixed.

Thanks to everyone for your help and thanks to you for reminding me about this.

Ned

Last edited by Ned on 17-Apr-2018 at 09:09 PM.

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Hypex 
Re: OS4.1 Final booting problem - Solved
Posted on 18-Apr-2018 14:37:54
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@Ned

That's no problem. Now I understand. It was very close. I do wonder, did you just have a Workbench backed up to CD, or was it also a bootable Workbench CD you made up?

Glad you got it fixed. As is typical, a simple issue making big problems. I'm beginning to think we all should start making a list of these common problems.
So we can look it up when we get stuck.

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