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Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 9-May-2018 23:59:07
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| After so much hype and now, nothing. Is there a release date or some sort of idea on pricing? pre-orders? anything? _________________ It's not the question that's the problem, it's the problem that's the question. |
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 4:55:08
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 5:30:20
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| @QuikSanz
"Note this is a product without an official availability date, and you are paying in advance just for shipping costs. "
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 5:54:16
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| @K-L
I seem to recall discussion to the effect that offering V4 in this fashion would help in gauging demand, and thus serve to determine the scale of the initial production run. Given the work accomplished so far, this seems reasonable. Last edited by Snorg on 10-May-2018 at 05:55 AM.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 19:19:17
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| @K-L
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"Note this is a product without an official availability date, ...
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Noo this can't be, shipping was announced for SEP/2017 ... Source: http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=8126&z=RCfAbp
Well it seemed something went wrong and the original shipping date was cancelled without any new date.
This is sad and I'm still waiting for a posting explaining this situation.
It's not only the delay that's bothering me, it's the lack of information that's putting the Apollo team into a bad light. |
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 20:20:34
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| @OneTimer1
While it is, unquestionably, true that ongoing delays, in particular those that meet without explanation, are unsettling, you must bear a few things in mind:
* this is a group of developers, not a formal commercial entity (correct me if I am mistaken); * the group has multiple websites and a very active forum where these things are discussed; * delays presumably arise from unforeseen complications, and this is hardly surprising; * there have been a number of point releases which appear to have been unplanned, at least initially; and * aspects of the work continue to be shared with the public as significant progress is made.
I wouldn't rock the boat just because the Vampire team is quiet - it is clear they are working hard to get things finished.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 22:28:52
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It's not only the delay that's bothering me, it's the lack of information that's putting the Apollo team into a bad light. |
It's like waiting for the ABox or Mick TInker's Amiga BoXeR except that the Vampire team can and have delivered previously (I know that was also true of Phase5 pre-ABox). If the stand alone happens that will be great and if it doesn't they've already released some great products and will be viewed in favourable light in the Amiga Hall of Fame. Most of the people in the market for a Vampire already have an Amiga so the delay is not really going to affect anyone. Maybe the Vampire delay will help X5000 sales in the meantime or maybe like the PlayStation being announced it'll mean no one buys ANY Amiga(One) machines like the fate of the CD32, Sega Saturn and Atari Jaguar! Last edited by BigD on 10-May-2018 at 10:29 PM.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 10-May-2018 23:57:46
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| @BigD
At least its not like waiting for the second coming of Christ, Big D. |
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 11-May-2018 2:03:00
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| I read on the forum that they are waiting for core 3 to release this. It's getting close to done.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 11-May-2018 2:51:37
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Who's waiting? Probably not the best forum for such questions. Last edited by Snorg on 11-May-2018 at 02:52 AM.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 11-May-2018 9:57:47
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Probably: The stock prize of the fpga is to hight? There are issue that they have first to fix? Or simply they will need to clear first the stock of V2 ?
note: im waithing for it too. Last edited by tlosm on 11-May-2018 at 09:59 AM. Last edited by tlosm on 11-May-2018 at 09:58 AM. Last edited by tlosm on 11-May-2018 at 09:57 AM.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 12-May-2018 21:18:57
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| http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=14962&z=M5EOQq Quote:
Here is it again! Last one was in February so I can only blame myself for being so lazy, because lot of things have been worked on in the meanwhile. This time, this one will be shorter as current tasks are very time consuming and some focus is requested. Vampire V4 As said in previous activity report, team is late with the Vampire V4. We want it to be perfect and have been very busy on it during past months to bring a super product to the Amiga community. To be fully transparent, we have been busy scratching our heads because of a single *ç&%&ç%&�*ç bug. Really. Hundreds of hours have been spent on it to determine why the heck the Vampire V4 does work well on some Amiga 500 boards and not on others (despite same chips revisions). Team measured everything that could be measured (if you mind, majsta has the biggest thing we could measure) and crosschecked with all Altera manuals, and could not find a single hardware issue. Finally, decision had to be taken to rewrite some important part of the core to figure out what the problem was, and believe us, the Amiga 500 is a real timing inferno. Most of us agrees that understanding women is easier than talking to an Amiga 500 chipset. So nothing is canceled, plans have just shifted a bit in time. Team will soon show more about the Vampire V4. GOLD3 Work on GOLD3 has been resumed and it works better and better with every new core revision. We still need to polish it a bit by dumping copper lists and fix what should be then start work on the AGA/RTG switch mechanism. YouTube and forums will pretty soon be flooded with new videos of AGA games running on our beloved OCS/ECS Amigas. Vampire 600 V2.1 Majsta resumed production on Vampire 600 and users are receiving that legendary card again. Some details of it have been improved since the original version to make sure users get the best V600 experience ever (better power circuitry, better caps, better socket, better cigarette smell, etc.). Support Philippe Lang�s campaign Apollo Team fully supports Philippe Lang�s A500 case campaign and we are very proud to be one of his partner. As of today, 63% of its objective has been achieved and the campaign will end in 19 days. This campaign needs your support so the Amiga 500 molds will come back to life again for next decades.
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 14-May-2018 0:59:21
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| Hi, What about V4 for A1200, I thought that's what we were all waiting for? And not even one word about it or one comment about why it is not on the order page. Has it just been abandonded? Brad Hansen
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Re: Any news on Vampire V4? Posted on 14-May-2018 2:19:55
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| @Punkyclown, The plan was said to deliver V4 500 first, then standalone. A1200 was after that. The egg needs to hatch first.
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