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AMIGA websites.
Posted on 29-May-2018 6:22:36
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@ All

I have noticed that A-EON is the owner of both here (updated privacy page I had to accept before posting)
and amiga.org amoungst others.
Is there a push for ownership over everything AMIGA related or something going on?

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 29-May-2018 6:23:55
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@SHADES

No.

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 29-May-2018 6:28:26
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@K-L

That was easy lol. ta.

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Posted on 29-May-2018 7:07:10
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@SHADES

Yes




Seriously though, yes there does appear to be an attempt by Hyperion and A-Eon to own everything under the one roof (even the things they have no right to own..... ie. cloanto vs hyperion at the moment).

When you control everything you can control the outside perception, which is strongly needed in Amigaland seeing as its all so laughable when you see the broad picture.

Yes, I'll probably cop flack for speaking the truth by those who are only interested in OS4 for saying it, but I'd rather live in reality myself. Pretending things are different than they really are helps absolutely no-one.

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 29-May-2018 8:00:06
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@fishy_fis

BS.

A-Eon and Hyperion together ? LOL.

2 websites among many, it's a coup d'état !! (ROFL)

And what has OS4 to do with all this ?

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 29-May-2018 8:51:17
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I think all that happened is the originally owners of these two site both lost intrest/time/or lack money to keep the sites going so looked for new owners and trever being the Amiga mega fan wanted to keep these sites online, i’ve not notice any real changes so pleased by the new owners.

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 29-May-2018 14:32:41
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@thread

history from the owner

The thread contains information about the purchase of Amiga.org as well.

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Posted on 29-May-2018 17:23:28
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It just boils down to who you can sue in case of non-compliance with GDPR of the mentioned sites - A-EON/AmiKit - I cannot ever imagine that ever happening, heh... :)

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Posted on 29-May-2018 22:08:03
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@fishy_fis

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When you control everything you can control the outside perception, which is strongly needed in Amigaland seeing as its all so laughable when you see the broad picture.


As far as I can tell we are able to criticise the site owners without fear of being censored or banned. Your own post demonstrates this.

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 30-May-2018 1:20:12
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Trevor is a real Amiga fan. He owns literally hundreds of Commodore and Amiga machines, all arranged in racks, all working. He has spent a fortune in supporting the Classic and NG Amigas over many years, and for no return other than his own satisfaction.

It's only because of Trevor's generosity that amigaworld and amiga.org continue to exist. Trevor (and his companies) get nothing back from those sites and accept whatever criticism people post thereon about him.

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@tonyw

Speaking of, it's now been a week since amiga.org was deactivated for the planned GDPR changes. Does anyone with a facebook account know what the latest news is on https://www.facebook.com/groups/amiga.org ?

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Re: AMIGA websites.
Posted on 2-Jun-2018 0:42:06
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@Karlos

Just a thought.
Have you checked their irc channel?

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I haven't, to be honest. I banned myself from using irc a long time ago.

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Posted on 2-Jun-2018 16:16:44
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@Karlos

Self imposed irc ban?
Good for you.

Checked irc for you. As of this writing, no information.

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Posted on 2-Jun-2018 17:41:34
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The new AmigaKit site is looking good!

http://amigakit.amiga.store/index.php

Let's go Amiga.org!

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Posted on 3-Jun-2018 22:12:42
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A lot of us have been supporting this platform. Tens of thousands easily could say.

As a return get a messed up thing from the great work and hobby. Congratulations all involved.

Well. Maybe Tomorrow there is a new OS with the damned support from years.

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Posted on 4-Jun-2018 0:31:15
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As a return get a messed up thing from the great work and hobby.


So you don't like AmigaKit's new website then?! Hard to tell with your broken English. Seems alright to me. Maybe it doesn't display so well on a Classic Amiga? Is that the problem?

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Quote:

number6 wrote:
@Karlos
Checked irc for you. As of this writing, no information.


Still not back.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2018 20:20:40
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@Karlos

Not trying to make an excuse but...
It's possible they had to focus on their store first.
Priorities perhaps.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2018 22:30:28
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@number6

I'm not actually convinced that these forums present a GDPR issue. Manual deletion of user accounts is, and always has been possible in both xoops and vbulletin. Both also provide admin controls over inclusion of modules for third party advertising purposes. To my mind a lot of sites have closed up for no good reason. A knee jerk reaction to legislation that has been hyped up to unreasonable levels.

The intention of GDPR is to give users more control over how their data is collected and shared, to enable them to obtain the data held by a given provider and to exercise the right to be forgotten.

For a forum that isn't conducting any commercial activities, updating the T&C, locking down any third party (advertising, analytics etc until they can be properly vetted) plugins and ensuring you can respond to subject access request, should one be raised, seems more than sufficient. Moving to https is just best practise and should be done regardless.

Instead it seems we've had a lot of knee jerk shutdowns in response tonghe general FUD surrounding the whole GDPR issue.

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