I've been using my A1000 quite a bit lately.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/42403464752/

I have a WiFi232 on the unit which I use to BBS. Installing programs has meant using floppy-based "sneakernet" after downloading them to my Mac, FTPing into the Mac from my A2000 w/ Ethernet, and writing out floppies to take over to the A1000. I'd rather take the A2000 out of the sequence, though.

There is no TCP/IP stack for 1.3, I believe, so the Plipbox won't work. Is a null-modem cable from A1000 to Mac, using a terminal program and X/Y/Zmodem to transfer files the best way? Is there no better networking option. I am aware of Parnet, but would rather take the A2000 out of the drill.

Want it to be easier to get programs from the net to the A1000's HD. Thanks.




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Is a null-modem cable from A1000 to Mac, using a terminal program and X/Y/Zmodem to transfer files the best way?

That is certainly the most obvious option, all though I would rather use a raspberry pi (with wifi) inside the Amiga case and do null-modem between that and the A1000

If you want to use the Mac (or other remote computer), I would opt for a bluetooth RS232 adapter, powered from the A1000, to keep the A1000 and the Mac isolated from each other (and keep things a lot more tidy) rather than a null-modem cable. I did this for the Minimig, MiST as well as CD32/TF328 and it works really well.

http://www.minimig.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=656

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I've spoken to people about RS232 wireless serial and thought bluetooth would be the easiest to get going with a terminal. But they always say to use WiFi instead. How a terminal would translate to TCP/IP simply I don't know. Nor getting them to talk. Perhaps they are right and plugging in two wireless devices is as easy as plugging a cable in between and hitting go.

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You could use an ACA500+ from Individual Computers connected to the A1000..at least my all my sideacrs were working with it last time I checked..

for me transferring files to my A1000 from my online A4000 or X1000 via 'real 3.5" disks' is part of my man-cave experience...slow ...clicks..noises...bad blocks and disks occasionally et all

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There is no TCP/IP stack for 1.3, I believe, so the Plipbox won't work.

Actually I think that Commodore's AS225 does in fact support AmigaOS 1.2 (not sure about 1.1, though). Obtaining a legal copy is another matter, but if you do (and if you find a matching SANA-2 device that's also 1.2/1.3 compatible), your Amiga 1000 should qualify as a first class citizen on your local network without having to rely on foreign hardware as suggested by others in this thread.

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I've spoken to people about RS232 wireless serial and thought bluetooth would be the easiest to get going with a terminal. But they always say to use WiFi instead. How a terminal would translate to TCP/IP simply I don't know. Nor getting them to talk. Perhaps they are right and plugging in two wireless devices is as easy as plugging a cable in between and hitting go.

Because those so called "wifi modems" are in essence a computer in its own (typically ESP8266 based), with its own TCP/IP stack and built in telnet client to connect out with (I never saw one with ssh client - though that _would_ be a heck more useful). If you want to connect null-modem wirelessly between two computers, you use bluetooth,

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@blakespot

There are some flash cards that have an integrated WLan + TCP/IP part.

You can't use them for WWW access but they can work like a SSD HD with SMBFS access.

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The other solution is called a 'WiFi Modem' and consists of a miniature computer with wifi and some drivers giving you BBS acces via the internet:
http://biosrhythm.com/?page_id=1453

@Petah

Hmm. It seems this does work under 1.3, but it only works with the A2065 Zorro II ethernet card. Not a real easy way to get that attached to my Amiga 1000.

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blakespot wrote: Hmm. It seems this does work under 1.3, but it only works with the A2065 Zorro II ethernet card. Not a real easy way to get that attached to my Amiga 1000.

SLIP, PLIP, PPP could help, but you will need a router (or a computer acting as router) that could handle this.

@OneTimer1

With FAT95 allegedly working with 1.3, this could be very useful :) I know a few minimig users who have such cards for transferring adfs.

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That's what I use raspberry pi for, ppp router. Easy to mount inside amiga, easy to set up, powered by a floppy cable, just needs a max3232 chip between amiga serial port and the gpip pins... even less if you find vcc level tx/rx on the zorro somewhere... in my A3000 I have a full size pi, stuck in and and powered by an ISA slot, lol. (but ok, that one is connected to amiga with ethernet and acts as wifi bridge, among other things)

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It seems this does work under 1.3, but it only works with the A2065 Zorro II ethernet card.

There may some good news for you - allegedly, its only the first release of AS225 that "features" hardcoded support for the A2065. The second release ("AS225R2") should, just like its offspring INet225, have proper support for SANA-2 software devices like slip.device and pop.device.

Provided, again, that you are able to trace and obtain a copy of AS225R2 (or optionally INet225, if it supports OS 1.2/1.3), chances are your Amiga 1000 will join your network in no time. Best of luck, and please consider posting an update here once you've got everything sorted out.

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@Petah

It is also possible to ask Olsen for (limited) OS 1.3 support in Roadshow... after all, he works for Hyperion, who now claim they own OS 1.3 as well, lol

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kolla wrote: It is also possible to ask Olsen for (limited) OS 1.3 support in Roadshow...

Or use a free version of AmiTCP
http://aminet.net/comm/net/AmiTCP-bin-30b2.lha

Sadly I could not find any hints about 'minimum requirements' so it may work with an A1000 or not ...

The amount of RAM and a free HD may be more critical than a fast CPU or a 68020.

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Because those so called "wifi modems" are in essence a computer in its own (typically ESP8266 based), with its own TCP/IP stack and built in telnet client to connect out with (I never saw one with ssh client - though that _would_ be a heck more useful). If you want to connect null-modem wirelessly between two computers, you use bluetooth,

Well that sounds more useful. In my discussions it was suggested to simply use WiFi to hook up to a home network. So I didn't see an easy way to set up two computers on a local WiFi network so they could each act as a terminal programmed by simple modem commands from any type of computer.

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So I didn't see an easy way to set up two computers on a local WiFi network so they could each act as a terminal programmed by simple modem commands from any type of computer.

It's of course possible to have something like that working, but it would involve programming custom ROMs, with software to have such wifi modems speak to each other over the LAN and set up some sort of SoL (Serial-over-LAN) connection. Way too much hassle, when you can just buy some very cheap RS232-bluetooth adapters that built exactly for what you want, and won't need any extra coding, nor maintenance of TCP stack and wifi stack... Amiga serial is limited to aroun 115200 baud, while the bluetooth adapters easily can do 10 times that speed, using wifi is just utterly overkill anyways :)

Btw, the bluetooth adapters I use are these HC-06 based ones... and they are hardcoded to be slaves, which is fine since I only connected them to linux/mac systems (which as "masters" can initiate the scanning and pairing).

HC-05 based adapters can also be master, set via AT commands:
(http://wiki.pinguino.cc/index.php/SPP_Bluetooth_Modules#HC-05_firmware_versions)

HC-08 can also be master, but not via AT command (annoying, I think)

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Way too much hassle, when you can just buy some very cheap RS232-bluetooth adapters that built exactly for what you want, and won't need any extra coding, nor maintenance of TCP stack and wifi stack...

That's what I thought. Which is why I wonder why people kept suggesting it.

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Amiga serial is limited to aroun 115200 baud, while the bluetooth adapters easily can do 10 times that speed, using wifi is just utterly overkill anyways :)

And yet bluetooth always seems to crawl at dialup speed when transferring files.

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Btw, the bluetooth adapters I use are these HC-06 based ones... and they are hardcoded to be slaves, which is fine since I only connected them to linux/mac systems (which as "masters" can initiate the scanning and pairing).

Okay thanks. Yeah I've seen those types of boards on eBay for a while now. I've had this idea for years as well. But I need it so that I can combine parts to plug directly into serial with power in a neat little case of course.

I tend to give up on what parts I need 'cause I can never find it all. Sure my idea isn't new and there are already devices which do what I want. But they are so damned expensive and tend to be for industrial uses. I just want to stick a simple wireless serial adaptor on the compiter. Nothing fancy of course.

Bluetooth (like a nullmodem cable) could be a possibility for simple data transfer (use XModem or similar)

The the OP said 'network' that's the reason why I suggested TCP/IP solutions ... if he doesn't need this, he can use whatever he wants.

@OneTimer1

Who says you cannot run TCP/IP over bluetooth? I do that, it's often better than zmodem transfers since TCP has better retransmission methods. Full circle is to do zmodem over IP, using amtelnet or any terminal program with telser.device - even this very often works better than zmodem directly over the serial connection.

Anyways, the obstacle here is OS1.x, though, an upgrade to 3.1 would simplify all this.

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