Poster | Thread |
remotenemesis
| |
A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 30-Jun-2018 4:30:07
| | [ #1 ] |
|
|
|
Member |
Joined: 11-Jan-2018 Posts: 94
From: SF Bay Area, California | | |
|
| My A1200 is doing great but I really want to squeeze in some more Fast RAM.
I'm thinking about either an ACA1221ec or an ACA1233n (because 128MB why not). I've heard the stock PSU may have issues powering an accelerator. Is that true? Are there are recommended third-party PSUs available up to the task?
(Ideally a US version for my PAL Amiga, but I have a step-converter so no big deal) Last edited by remotenemesis on 30-Jun-2018 at 04:31 AM.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
outrun1978
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 30-Jun-2018 6:07:53
| | [ #2 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 22-Feb-2015 Posts: 596
From: Unknown | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
Power can be an issue I had to swap to using a 300W PSU on my old A1200 once I had a few extras attached to my motherboard. If you are using the accelerator on its own however I would be more worried about having adequate ventilation as I had to keep removing the trap door to let some air in. With the trapdoor cover shut I found my ACA1231 card locked up the system.
One of those laptop cooler mats will help here or a small mini fan to expel some air out _________________ Amigaone X5000/20 4GB Radeon RX 550 Polaris 12 AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition Update 1 Amiga 1200 Workbench 3.1.4 Amiga CD32 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
utri007
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 30-Jun-2018 13:10:26
| | [ #3 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 12-Aug-2003 Posts: 1074
From: United States of Europe | | |
|
| @remotenemes
A500's PSU would be better than original A1200 PSU.
There shouldn't be power problems with 68030 cpu, at least if you are using CF card as hard drive. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
amigakit
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 30-Jun-2018 13:17:27
| | [ #4 ] |
|
|
|
Amiga Kit |
Joined: 28-Jun-2004 Posts: 2520
From: www.amigakit.com | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
Hi
We can assemble a high wattage PSU for you. Send us an email and we can look into it, _________________ Amiga Kit Amiga Store Links: www.amigakit.com | New Products | A600GS |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
remotenemesis
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 30-Jun-2018 16:36:19
| | [ #5 ] |
|
|
|
Member |
Joined: 11-Jan-2018 Posts: 94
From: SF Bay Area, California | | |
|
| @thread
Thanks for the advice. My planned setup is a stock A1200 with an Indivision, a CF as a hard-drive, PCMCIA CF adapter and one of the accelerators I mentioned.
I'll try this config and see if I have any problems.
@amigakit
Good to know! I'll definitely be in touch if I need a souped-up PSU. Thank you.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
g_kraszewski
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 30-Jun-2018 17:57:23
| | [ #6 ] |
|
|
|
Regular Member |
Joined: 3-Sep-2010 Posts: 343
From: Unknown | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
A1200 with Indivision AGA and ACA1221 card runs here on 3.0 A original PSU without issues. However when I've tried to connect a CD-ROM drive, power was insufficient. _________________ RastPort |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
scuzz
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 4-Jul-2018 0:22:16
| | [ #7 ] |
|
|
|
Regular Member |
Joined: 30-May-2004 Posts: 365
From: New Forest United Kingdom | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
Ah !! Those were the days. I recall one Christmas back in 1995 when I first tried to install a 1GB 3.5 drive inside my A1200 with the GVP 030. The machine just refused to run the drive and I had to give up. I was advised to get an A500 heavy brick which has been attached to the computer ever since. She has the Blizzard Turbo 030 now SCSI KIT and the internal modest 2.5". I only ever really had a problem with the 3.5" drive and an Apollo 060... for that I used a Goliath.
The only issue I have with trapdoors is the ability to close the things with some of the cards. I've never had an issue just leaving it off, other than forgetting I had done so and had the thing hanging out the bottom when moving the Amiga.
scuzz
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
remotenemesis
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 4-Jul-2018 6:00:54
| | [ #8 ] |
|
|
|
Member |
Joined: 11-Jan-2018 Posts: 94
From: SF Bay Area, California | | |
|
| @scuzz
Hah good times.
Hope the New Forest is treating you well, I've spent much time there.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
g01df1sh
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 4-Jul-2018 9:01:07
| | [ #9 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| I Have a A1233n and it runs fine on standard A1200 PSU the heavy version. I also have run it with indivision card as well with no issues. I went of the indivision card as it is such a dog to configure right. Video to scart lead and a my Samsung TV do just as good a job. Only plus of indivision is 1024 x 768 but that really does need a 060 to be smooth.
Also switching screen modes on indivision in Pinball games for multiball is to slow. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Ferry
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 5-Jul-2018 10:42:40
| | [ #10 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 26-Aug-2003 Posts: 696
From: Valencia, Spain | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
I had my A1200 with a Blizzard 1260+SCSI running with standard PSU for some time. Then I'd put some SCSI HDD in a AT tower, and took the advantage of more space to use an AT PSU to power it, using the original PSU cable -easier to carry one big box with all things inside instead several different boxes: PSU, HDD, CDRW, etc.-
Prior to this, I had a Blizzard A1230-IV @ 50Mhz, again with the original PSU, again no problems.
So I'd say it's safe to use the original PSU with the accelerators you mention…
Saluditos,
Ferrán. _________________ Amiga user since 1988 AOS4 Betatester Member of ATO Spain A1 Cfg OS4 SCR A1200 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
jPV
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 5-Jul-2018 11:42:01
| | [ #11 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 11-Apr-2005 Posts: 812
From: .fi | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
A1200, Blizzard 1230-IV, Indivision AGA mk2 (with fan), IDE-CF adapter, PCMCIA-CF adapter... all has been fine for years with the stock PSU here. As others have also said, there shouldn't be issues with this kind of setup with the original PSU. The problem comes when you try to add more drives (second HD, CD-ROM) to the setup. Last edited by jPV on 05-Jul-2018 at 11:44 AM.
_________________ - The wiki based MorphOS Library - Your starting point for MorphOS - Software made by jPV^RNO |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
remotenemesis
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 5-Jul-2018 15:25:05
| | [ #12 ] |
|
|
|
Member |
Joined: 11-Jan-2018 Posts: 94
From: SF Bay Area, California | | |
|
| |
Status: Offline |
|
|
Karlos
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 6-Jul-2018 20:27:17
| | [ #13 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 24-Aug-2003 Posts: 4404
From: As-sassin-aaate! As-sassin-aaate! Ooh! We forgot the ammunition! | | |
|
| @remotenemesis
What I did before moving to a tower was what everyone then did, which was to convert an atx PSU and use that. I also provided power tonthr motherboard through a secondary input via the original floppy PSU power jumper. This meant that not all the power to the motherboard was through just one set of rails. This was for an 040 accelerator that used plenty of extra juice. _________________ Doing stupid things for fun... |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
OneTimer1
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 7-Jul-2018 13:12:19
| | [ #14 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 3-Aug-2015 Posts: 981
From: Unknown | | |
|
| Quote:
remotenemesis wrote:
Thanks for the advice. My planned setup is a stock A1200 with an Indivision, a CF as a hard-drive, PCMCIA CF adapter and one of the accelerators I mentioned.
|
The A1200 PSU was constructed for a hard drive and an accelerator.
So if you are using a CF card and a 'weak' accelerator (no 040 CPU or PowerUP) you have lots of reserves. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Karlos
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 7-Jul-2018 16:23:02
| | [ #15 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 24-Aug-2003 Posts: 4404
From: As-sassin-aaate! As-sassin-aaate! Ooh! We forgot the ammunition! | | |
|
| @OneTimer1
Correction. It was designed for a 2.5 inch laptop drive and a ram expansion in the trapdoor. Only around 25W. A modest 030 accelerator card and 3.5 inch drive pushes it. _________________ Doing stupid things for fun... |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
remotenemesis
| |
Re: A1200: More power for an accelerator card? Posted on 14-Jul-2018 5:35:50
| | [ #16 ] |
|
|
|
Member |
Joined: 11-Jan-2018 Posts: 94
From: SF Bay Area, California | | |
|
| Looking good! Thanks for the advice everyone.
Last edited by remotenemesis on 14-Jul-2018 at 06:08 AM.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|