@vision

Unless a pun/play on words, it's spelled "mysterious".

As for the msg itself, surely we've all learned by now that these sorts of things only happen because there's no real substance in the Amiga-sphere so gimmicks like this are used instead to keep people interested.

I also suspect it might be a sort of tinder thingy

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@Barana

On similar note FIFA is also asking TV broadcaster to cut down on the showing of good looking females attending soccer matches.

No more wags.

@fishy_fis

Come on fishy why you being so negative. Have faith we may all be in for a big shock soon about time Amiga land had some good news..

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@Yssing

Not logical with the Amiga 1000 being from 1985 & 33 years old as indicated by the crypted message.

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@g01df1sh

Not negative, just living in reality.
The "Amiga" ecosystem is all sorts of messed up and day by day it becomes more and more embarrassing.
There's nothing even remotely interesting on the horizon, just more stuff with nothing at all in line with the spirit of what made the Amiga so great.
Tabor for example,..... remember back in the 90's when those 5-700mhz pcs were finally destroying the Amiga? Well 20 years later those machines are *still* more powerful. It's horrendously tragic and a mockery of the hard work done by Jay Miner & Co...... all because a bunch of clueless people wanted to play businessmen.
The choices and designs are ridiculously stupid,... a slap in the face to the idea that is Amiga.

The Amiga was designed with the idea to create an affordable, capable machine that people want to use. Not a single aspect of this has been carried forward.
Yes there's some people waiting on Tabor, but not because the machine is interesting, but rather out of desperation for a machine that doesnt require a mortgage (and for performance inferior to 15 year old machines for the mortgage machines).
I have little interest in encouraging people to keep producing overpriced pieces of crap.

@fishy_fis

I feel your pain but unless we change to Arm its not going to get any better on PPC. Some how we need to go over to arm.

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@g01df1sh

Or better yet - above and beyond rather than over.

I'm not convinced that a port would offer much.

@ne_one

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I'm not convinced that a port would offer much.

Yes, cheap available hardware is not much.

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@fishy_fis

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Yes there's some people waiting on Tabor, but not because the machine is interesting, but rather out of desperation for a machine that doesnt require a mortgage (and for performance inferior to 15 year old machines for the mortgage machines). I have little interest in encouraging people to keep producing overpriced pieces of crap.

Again unfair. If there's anything to complain about with the Tabor its the difficulty and delay supporting the onboard sound and networking chips. This is a SSLLOOOWWW endeavour which saps away any enthusiasm. At least the X1000 and X5000 could ship with incomplete drivers for onboard chips because PCIe cards could be added with chips that were supported! That is the reason to be annoyed not simply that it has a PPC chip inside it. If the Tabor doen't sell then it's surely the end of the road for A-EON and possibly AmigaKit. There's no point bad mouthing the Tabor while also expecting future Arm ports of the OS!!! This is the Amiga(One) strategy right now and if it doesn't pan out then emulation is all we have and that would be sad.

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delay supporting the onboard sound and networking chips

unless my ears deceive me every time I listen to this, I believe this is newer information regarding onboard:

Source

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@BigD

To each his own, but I think it's pretty reasonable to be disappointed with the farce that is OS4.x hardware.
It's ridiculous to expect people to pay good money for machines that are inferior to a typical 20 year old pc. And more expensive than said machines were 20 years ago.

Personally I think the amiga deserves more, as do those that have kept it alive until now.

I couldnt care less what architecture it's on, or if it even gets ported to another architecture.
Crap is crap, whether it's related to a hobby or not.
I have no malice towards those behind the scenes, but Im hardly going to congratulate someone, or encourage them, when they're transforming the Amiga's legacy into amateur hour.
Enthusiasm is good, but the choices made have been beyond stupid.
As an example, for *A SINGLE* prototype board using a 5020 I was quoted $950 AUD. A SINGLE BOARD. The whole "we have to charge this much 'cos of volume" is either a crock, or a demonstration of unfathomable incompetence. It was also impressively stupid not to look beyond our ecosystem when developing these systems. As this very forum demonstrates there is a modest interest in ppc boards. Why the heck didnt these groups get together, pool resources and development and end up with a cheaper, better system is beyond logic. It's very, very basic business sense.
Unless there's more interest in control and arrogance towards the system.
Unfortunately Im not convinced this isn't the case.

So yes, for a lot of reasons I find the whole OS4 scene, sans the OS itself, insanely comical and am happy to call a spade a spade.

@fishy_fis

Well said... that pretty effectively captures the sentiments of many.

@ne_one

How many? 3-4 of you ?

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@fishy_fis

I agree with everything you say.

@fishy_fis

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As an example, for *A SINGLE* prototype board using a 5020 I was quoted $950 AUD.

So would that hardware actually be a suitable platform for OS4 or is it an industrial SBC missing a lot of the connectivity needed for a desktop system.

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A SINGLE BOARD

From a production run of 1 board or is it from a stock of boards that came from a large production run?

@Hypex

It was mine, and he passed away too , I put him just to not loose his memory.
Bsck on topic, I hope it involves some hardware, cause it is our main problem now: Aros is ok, but loosing momentum because the lack of devs that cannot update drivers, so we really need a "reference" system (Vampyre is cool too) but not powerful enough for modern tasks.

@Templario

Maybe, but hoping it is a different story this time (Am I being too optimistic, sure I am )

@fishy_fis

oopps, my bad, wrote so fast that I didn't realize, thanks

@fishy_fis

Magnifiently expressed. I don't give a damn for ppc boards or os4 (it was surpassed by AROS and Morphos long time ago) so I hope there is a new direction.