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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 19:46:33
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| @number6
Two sets, or two Aeon drivers and two Hyperion drivers, for a total of four.
Two of which work, which brings us back to the "Olsen Gang".
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 20:15:02
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It is not Costel's work. He states that Hyperion are using an outside developer as well. His assessment of the two drivers is based on how/if they handle getting the correct MAC address . Of course if the X5000 production boards have a "Thing" with the MAC addresses then his basis for the assessment could be incorrect. No reason to go to war. At some point both driver versions may be available to X5000 users . _________________ Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 20:25:50
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And yes. If you have an valid agreement to deliver working Ethernet drivers then deliver them . Regardless of the fact that other arrangements may have been made by the entity you have the agreement with.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 20:29:24
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olsen gang eller olsen banden as there are called on danisk/dansk are great, i grew up with thouse,i know there have a huge fan base in germany aswell not just in denmark. |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 21:22:50
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| So exactly why are there 3 different groups of people working on 3 different network drivers for the same hardware?
Just how many nic drivers do you need?
Seems like a ridiculous waste of time especially with limited developers for Amiga.
And since the Enhancer software was released with 2 versions of NIC drivers on it, exactly what is holding up the Tabor now?
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 22:37:58
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Well, Spectre660's comment makes sense. The one project has been paid for, so its expected to be delivered.
The drivers in the Enhancer package are expedient and get something to the community NOW.
I'm not aware of the third team, but if there is anything that performs better, the users will decide from among the available solutions.
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Well, Hyperion's drivers aren't finished yet.
Although I'm curious as to why there are drivers available for a board that can't be bought. Seems odd.Last edited by JimIgou on 10-Sep-2018 at 10:41 PM. Last edited by JimIgou on 10-Sep-2018 at 10:41 PM.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 23:04:38
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For Beta testers ?.
The positive from of all of this is the we know that we have at least 3 developers who can write AmigaOS 4.x drivers for Ethernet on Powerpc SOC's .
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Although I'm curious as to why there are drivers available for a board that can't be bought. Seems odd. |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 23:05:07
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Although I'm curious as to why there are drivers available for a board that can't be bought. |
There are boards out there being beta tested, see Epsilon's blog post from 2016...
Epsilon's Blog
Although it was running Debian back then. |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 23:06:56
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Well, Hyperion's drivers aren't finished yet. |
Who cares if A-EON have paid someone else to make the drivers and they're finished? Ship ALL Tabors with the Enhancer package, write the Hyperion driver effort off as a lost cause and lets all get on with our lives!
"When it's ready / 2 more weeks!"
It's all getting very old, boring and by the time its released; POINTLESS!!
Ask Hyperion to pay for some marketing in order to make up for the fact their drivers aren't finished and let's have some hype and a release date and a launch party for a change!Last edited by BigD on 10-Sep-2018 at 11:09 PM.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 23:08:49
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Also this clip showing OS4 up and running. |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 10-Sep-2018 23:28:10
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I don't recall anyone posting that the audio driver was done.
Perhaps I missed it?
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 0:56:05
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I can't see how OS4.1 is in beta on the Tabor without an audio driver! Maybe I misunderstand what a beta version is but I would expect it to simply a bug check at that point!
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... i.e. not an incomplete mess of partially working and non-existent drivers for important parts of the system. But hey, maybe Amiga companies have their own definition:
Something like; Amiga Software Beta Version:
"When it's done / pre-Alpha forever, but we'll let you buy it early on in the dev cycle so that we don't bankrupt ourselves from needless ongoing litigation!"
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 1:05:17
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August, which is later than earlier general reports about it still being worked on:
spectre on audio
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with only one expansion slot intended for a video card, lack of support for the on-board sound would then be problematic. |
But I can't independently verify this nor the status as of today. That's why I asked.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 5:51:18
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Yes, beta testers for Tabor. Definitely a valid point.
Sharing the X5000 driver sounds more like a "spirit of cooperation" move.
Has anyone addressed the X5000/40's USB issue yet?
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Pretty impressive demo. Last edited by JimIgou on 11-Sep-2018 at 05:56 AM.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 7:29:56
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| I nominate Hyperion changes company name to "Godot Industries".
For whatever reason, intentional or not, the delays always seem to fall back in Hyperion's lap at some point. The current situation is not working. Not for hardware developers, not for software developers and ultimately not for end users. Not even working for Hyperion looking at recent financials. :\
Something has to change.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 9:13:05
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Yeah, seems more like Tabor is in the prototype phase of development. Beta would be feature complete, you can't beta test the audio if there is no audio. Which begs the question, what have the Tabor beta testers actually been doing since 2016? Last edited by AdvancedFollower on 11-Sep-2018 at 09:16 AM.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 11:27:14
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Pretty impressive demo. |
or rather a gimmick. appears to be pretty low frame rate, especially considering low polygon count. |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 12:06:49
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You know, for instance, that the Operating system as a whole, has a lot of other components that may need testing and not dependent on a missing driver? There are LOTS of bugs that can be erradicated thus improving the system while some driver is finished. _________________ Cuida tus piedras gordas.
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 14:29:13
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If something like this had been done on a Vampire, people would be heralding it like the second coming.
In the meanwhile, it IS entry level hardware. |
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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name Posted on 11-Sep-2018 15:47:17
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The situation will change, eventually. The base case is Stein's Law: "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."
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