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ssolie 
X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
Posted on 23-Aug-2018 17:02:07
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I've been informed that somebody has been trying to smear Hyperion by saying they are in violation of the GPL due to my SATA drivers.

Here are the facts (there are no alternative facts):
1. The SATA drivers are not finished. In fact, they are broken. They cannot handle removable media properly and never will in their current form.
2. I took so long to finish the drivers that I was unable to fix #1 before they were released to the general public via the X5000 product.
3. The guts of the SATA drivers are from libata which is GPL and linked statically so of course the drivers are GPL as well.

As of right now, I am rewriting the drivers to handle removable media properly and to handle port multipliers. This work involves some fundamental changes to the AmigaOS specific code. As such, I don't want the old broken/bad code out in the public being hacked on because it is broken.

My plan is to finish up the code changes and release it at AmiWest 2018 which is October 11 to 14 and we will be going over the code at the Amiga Dev Con. At that time the drivers will become examples on how to do disk drivers properly. Please do sign up for the Dev Con and you we can all go over the code and discuss how to make other drivers from it.

If you have a problem with any of this then please feel free to email directly at steven@solie.ca or give me a call at 403-912-1402 (MST) to discuss. I will not be checking the web forums.

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Re: X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
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Re: X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
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Thanks for the clarification Steven.

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Re: X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
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Re: X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
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@ssolie

Quote:

ssolie wrote:
3. The guts of the SATA drivers are from libata which is GPL and linked statically so of course the drivers are GPL as well.
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At that time the drivers will become examples on how to do disk drivers properly.


Meaning that all other drivers based on this work will also be GPLed...

In all seriousness, would it not be much better and easier to use BSD code base?

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@ssolie

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I've been informed that somebody has been trying to smear Hyperion by saying they are in violation of the GPL due to my SATA drivers.


Pro tip. When you blame someone for smearing, don't confirm said violation in same post.

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@Rose

I very much doubt X5000 owners are even the slightest interested in source code.

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@ssolie

Thank you for clarifying. I am happy to see that I was right in believing there are good intentions for this and other relevant open-source derivatives that find their way intoour world.

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I would be. I am actually, but I do not meet the x5000 owner classification at this time, and I do not have a relevant driver binary.

Last edited by billt on 23-Aug-2018 at 08:41 PM.

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Re: X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
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Let it go, please. When the facts come out, then pass judgement if you feel it just and noble to do so. In the meantime, all of this sniping is beyond tiresome.

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Posted on 23-Aug-2018 20:44:36
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Thanks for the update and the work!

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Posted on 23-Aug-2018 21:53:01
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@ssolie

Thanks for the good work, the update and clarification.

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Posted on 24-Aug-2018 1:27:39
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Thank you Steve :)
Great work and we support you!!!
See you at AmiWest2018 :)


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Re: X5000 and A1222 SATA driver source code
Posted on 24-Aug-2018 4:17:03
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@ssolie

Are you still around? Did you listen to what you said the past years at Amiwest?

Why should we believe you?

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@ssolie

Thanks for the update Steve. Looking forward to it.

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Posted on 24-Aug-2018 9:10:14
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- Hyperion has a far from perfect track record when it comes to using opensource code

- the driver was released (broken or not doesn't matter)

- sources where not made available

- AFAIK there was no copy of the GPL+contact info provided with those binaries(*)

-> hence all smearing is 100% self inflicted




* I REALLY mean AFAIK, if I'm wrong all is more or less o.k. if I'm right Hyperion is in violation of the GPL

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I REALLY mean AFAIK, if I'm wrong all is more or less o.k. if I'm right Hyperion is in violation of the GPL


That is quite a lame excuse for usual FUD.

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So are those conditions met or not?

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@pavlor

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That is quite a lame excuse for usual FUD.



Pointing out a legal violation is not FUD.


https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html

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