There is only Apple and the lousy rest! And Amiga became a Hoax!

BUILD AN ULTRA HIGH END 100.000 $ Amiga with AI and ULTRA HIGH END CAPABILITIES!

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/

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Take the neural net libraries off Aminet from 20 plus years ago, throw a MILLION times the pwoer plus at them, then dont bother using Any well known educational methods at them prooven over centuaries with humans, and they STILL manage to out perform the best humans.

Just imagine how long ago we couldve had intelligent systems if people had decided our computer sucessors should be our children, instead of our psycopathically brutalised offspring.

The more I see of whats needed to make an intelligent system, the less is needed, so much so that a modern GPU, runnng the right function, can out think our greatest group of genii, together.

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Did everyone forget all those 80s/90s film plot-llnes like Terminator and The Matrix? A.I. will just as likely enslave humanity as save it! One wrong algorithm and 1,000s die if we let A.I. into complex and important parts of our infrastructure. The huge glut of control and surveillance systems that resulted out of just developments in computer databases, cameras and facial recognition has been chilling enough for modern society but we are really striving for our own obsolescence now! Less 1984 and more Age of Ultron! Jay Miner understood the dangers but most of us just believe all technological advancements are progress and a good thing in themselves

To clarify many are trying to create self driving cars, and intelligent delivery drones and are further attempting to automate higher and higher skilled labour positions. Is this really a good or safe thing to attempt? I mean yes, a self contained piece of A.I. software that could attempt to solve complex problems while getting smarter in each iteration is potentially useful but keep it on a single network with no access to the internet and make it dependent on a human user to avert problems in the future IMHO.

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The 100.000$ PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1qchTqb5fM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsXCjU1-fM

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A Lamborghini computer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTkjMMibn6w

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Apple ... no thanks:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-30532463

No Ferraris or Lamborghinis? I say cars for the masses, not for the classes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada

@Snorg

It would be so great if there was an AROS fully supporting this machine and free of bugs:

https://www.itsco.de/workstation-hp-z820-2x-intel-twelve-core-xeon-e5-2697-v2-12x-2-7ghz.html

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No Ferraris or Lamborghinis? I say cars for the masses, not for the classes: [snip]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada

The U.S. market has been spared the Lada, but we were afflicted with the Yugo for about 7 years.

Zastava Koral

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https://www.itsco.de/workstation-hp-z820-2x-intel-twelve-core-xeon-e5-2697-v2-12x-2-7ghz.html

chances are, that x86_64 abi v1 target will run on this, perhaps even smp. if there is an actualy owner of such a hardware around, he might give it a shot. it wont probably be perfect, but one needs to start somewhere.

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Hey! We were very proud of that export deal at that time. Do you have any idea how small a nation Yugoslavia was? Yet it was able to manufacture and export a car to the US market. No small feat.

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The 100.000$ PC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1qchTqb5fM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsXCjU1-fM

Disappointing, I was expected to see an AmigaONE X6000

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Well there was/is the acer ferrari...

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There are really ultra high end computers, but you can't afford them.


And most of them doesn't fit into your bedroom.

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TOP500 LIST The TOP500 celebrates its 25th anniversary with a major shakeup at the top of the list. Summit, an IBM-built supercomputer now running at the Department of Energy’s (DOE) Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL), captured the number one spot with a performance of 122.3 petaflops on High Performance Linpack (HPL), the benchmark used to rank the TOP500 list. Summit has 4,356 nodes, each one equipped with two 22-core Power9 CPUs, and six NVIDIA Tesla V100 GPUs. The nodes are linked together with a Mellanox dual-rail EDR InfiniBand network. https://www.top500.org/lists/2018/06/

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Hey! We were very proud of that export deal at that time.

There is no such thing as bad publicity, I guess.

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QBit wrote: @BigD The 100.000$ PC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1qchTqb5fM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsXCjU1-fM

Perhaps I missed something, but the cost of the server being built there wasn't close to $100,000 - and the key word here was server.

All of the components used aside from the case were designed for enterprise/server systems not your typical end users. Most servers wouldn't need a $4000 workstation GPU in them as they are headless in most situations.

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The Age of personal supercomputing is coming. See the signs:

https://silentpc.com/elite-pcs/personal-supercomputer

http://www.asteroidsathome.net/boinc/

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@QBit

The age of super-computing is anything but personal. It will however, usher in the ultimate video game - one in which you and I are characters rather than players.

My point is, in the face of today's technology, the mindset we had in the days of hobbyist computing is not only obsolete, it is dangerously ignorant.

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My point is, in the face of today's technology, the mindset we had in the days of hobbyist computing is not only obsolete, it is dangerously ignorant.

If we are having fun and being productive with our Micro Computers then it isn't dangerous. The fact that every average Joe will have a supercomputer in their pocket which is networked to 100 million other easily lead average Joes is the scary thing. I was in a park earlier where the local 'yoof' were mixing dodgy hip hop tracks with poor a poor taste in sound samples on their over amplified phones' speakers distracting the toddlers and primary age children from their play. This isn't progress it's just allowing people to publicly show off their affluence (or credit limit) and love for expensive gadgets without them having the need for any talent, coding or skill.

Denial of service attacks, coordinated vandalism and sexting are the fruits of 'modern' computing and the social networks that harness the power not gifted Zuckerbergs on every corner. Let's not forget that Zuckerberg shafted his best mate; the CFO of FaceBook out of all his FaceBook shares, that Steve Jobs was a selfish and deeply flawed human being who shunned his own daughter for decades and that our own Jay Miner saw the dangers of future computing power and IMHO he has been proved correct in his fears.

The threat to our banks, infrastructure, job security and even the threat to our peace and sanity at our parks and open spaces will far outweigh any possible advantage that future IT advances will have. Sad but true

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Lambouginis and ferraris in Australia are very temperamental and unreliable.
Australia was unfortunate enough to import ladas here in the 90s for 2 years, as well as FSO Nikkis. Once bitten, forever shy, and the bum of all jokes.
It was when the USSR was having a drought,would not let Jews emigrate and did not have enough wheat to eat bread. The dealer here bought each Niva for $9000 of wheat,then spent $1000aud on each car to fix it enough for sale.
How do you Double the value of a Lada?
Fill the tank.
Yet, living near the biggest sand island in the world, Fraser island, 120km long,with no formal roads, only beach driving and tracks , the Lada niva had a reputation for pulling 2.2ton Toyota landcrusiers and Nissan patrols out of bogs.
The Amiga and Lada Niva are more loved than the heavy weights.and in some ways can do a better job.

And dos/ddos attacks were common in the 90s if not more than now.

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