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Trekiej 
Amiga Camera
Posted on 22-Nov-2018 21:26:38
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Are there any Raspberry Pi projects that allow for the saving of files in Amiga native formats?

This could be a Raspberry Pi with a camera hat that saves in say, Ham or IFF.

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Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 23-Nov-2018 14:07:54
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@Trekiej

I was going to suggest a command-line tool called Imagemagick which I thought supported the Amiga's IFF format, but I just checked the File Formats list for the latest version and it's not listed. Perhaps an older version of the program supported it and they've now dropped it.

My idea would be to write a simple script which scans your camera directory on the pi for new files (jpg, bmp, whatever) and then sends them as an argument to the Imagemagick command-line tool to do an automatic conversion to .IFF.

Since Imagemagick's support of IFF is now in question, I can instead recommend you take a look at XNConvert. I use the full desktop version of the XN program called XNView, and it's really good. XNConvert is a module that is just for converting files, and I believe it supports IFF.

If you're on board with the idea then as a first step I would download the LINUX version of XNConvert and then try using it to convert an image to IFF. If it works, all you need to do then is write a suitable script to automate the procedure.

Regarding HAM: I don't think you'll find a LINUX tool to do a conversion like that. I reckon the AMIGA itself has the best programs for this.

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jaokim 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 23-Nov-2018 16:18:54
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Also this might work:

https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/1-ppmtoilbm/

Which according to docs can produce HAM.

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OneTimer1 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 23-Nov-2018 18:31:19
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@Trekiej

Saving (converting) the picture into an IFF ILBM format is usually a downgrade.

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Trekiej 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 24-Nov-2018 18:21:13
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@OneTimer1

Okay, I guess making it automatic would be the only advantage.
I hope it would make it more compatible and easier for the A1000, etc to use.

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OneTimer1 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 25-Nov-2018 19:03:06
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Quote:

Trekiej wrote:

I hope it would make it more compatible and easier for the A1000, etc to use.



Main Problem (for an A1000):
How to access the Pi Camera?

Maybe you can install a Mailbox on the Raspi and use Term on the Amiga for easy access.

Mystic http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/mys111p.zip
Synchronet http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix

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Trekiej 
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Posted on 25-Nov-2018 20:37:24
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@OneTimer1

I wonder if there is as usb to parallel or serial adapter for the Amiga.
A Plip Box could help.

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BrianHoskins 
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Posted on 25-Nov-2018 20:40:29
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@OneTimer1

I also wondered about that but I decided to just let there be an assumption that there's some good reason to access *.IFF files from a camera on the pi.

But you offer some good suggestions. To add to that, there's a LINUX program called 'motion' which is designed for accessing camera devices. It has some methods you can hook into for doing extra stuff using external programs. For example, you can hook into the "motion detected" method and call an external script to do something.
I used this to get my server to send a push notification to my phone if motion was detected in my home while I'm not there.

Potentially op could use Motion in this way to do the file conversion and then to send the files over to the Miggy via the terminal.

It's definitely a "round the houses" way of doing something that can be done far more easily using the pi on its own and leaving the Miggy out of the equation.
I'm all for playing with the Amiga but personally I probably wouldn't go this far just to access camera files on the A1000.

Each to his own, though, and we'll all enjoy our AMIGAs as we see fit

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Trekiej 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 25-Nov-2018 23:07:12
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@BrianHoskins

I should have asked what video would play the best on an Amiga.

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OneTimer1 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 28-Nov-2018 21:56:20
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Trekiej wrote:
I wonder if there is as usb to parallel or serial adapter for the Amiga.
A Plip Box could help.


The Amiga has RS232 and the Raspberry could easily equipped with RS232 compatible interface.

There is no need for wasting money on a non existent adapter.

You just need to write the scripts for the RasPI camera (with or without IFF conversion) and need some kind of Mailbox software for easy access over RS232.

Videos for the Amiga might be possible, but original ECS Amigas can only play very short videos with very limited colours. Back in the 80ies we would have loved such a camera but today we would only be disappointed by it's lousy results.

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Trekiej wrote:
I should have asked what video would play the best on an Amiga.


Fast IFF Anims where restricted to 16 or 32 colours with a resolution of 320x200 pixel, no sound and a playback time of less than 3 minutes.

Faster formats needed more Ram and CPU accelerators, Phase5 demoed a Video that was streamed directly form a hard disk to the AGA (RTG?) screen. But really good video quality was only possible with special video cards (price from 1000-40000 $) and heavily expanded Amigas.

If you are interested in Amiga videos you can still find a lot of them on the Aminet. Here is a video player for your PC: http://www.randelshofer.ch/multishow/

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Trekiej 
Re: Amiga Camera
Posted on 28-Nov-2018 23:01:44
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@OneTimer1

Thanks.
I will probably let this go for a while.
One other thing I would like to do is put a Raspberri Pi into the 3.5 FDD A1000 bay.
This could be some what helpful.

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