@K-L

you not?

I do not take this serious

The whole poll is senseless because nobody is interested in the community and what people might think

OS 4 is a good OS. It's the company that's meant to be maintaining it that I have concerns about.

As for the poll being childish ill thought out. Why not put another one up if you think you can do better.

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@g01df1sh

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Why not put another one up if you think you can do better.

Yes, that's a good idea. We don't really need the source code for AmigaOS, or AROS ported to RPi, or AmigaOS ported to the Raptor Blackbird, and Hyperion doesn't need to die. Some of these things would be nice, but what we really need is.... more polls.

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@Daedalus

You're right, my bad.
It seems only about %45 of the entire community perceive Hyperion as incompetent jokes.

@agami

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agami wrote: I selected "Hyperion must die", not just because I think it would be the best thing for our community, and I've said it on more than a few occasions, but also the way the poll options were presented, that was the least disagreeable option.

Yeah, where's the option for thermo-nuclear war or to have the Amiga source code blasted into outer space to help other worlds and civilisations take a different path for OS development?

I voted OS3.9 rules because it suits my needs while I wait for Hyperion to 'help' A-EON release the Tabor. They seem to be expecting A-EON to write their own sound / network drivers to finish off the project which is a bit weird / lazy / a sign of their inability to handle software porting for hardware launches. I suppose it's because Hyperion's contractors need to focus on SMT and AmigaOS4.2!

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@bison

love.. it could have been zero progress after commodores fall.. ever think about that.. stuck with 3.1/3.9 forever..

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@noXLar

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stuck with 3.1/3.9 forever..

What major difference will OS3.1.4 make compared to OS3.9 with Turboprint + patches?

OS4.x is an improvement on OS3.1/3.5/3.9 but that gets the least love these days because of the hardware costs! As far as I'm concerned if you 'love' the platform you will buy new hardware if the price is right. Tabor should scratch that itch.

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@BigD

I'm not going to pointing out my opinion what is best or worse..i only said you could in fact today after all these years still be sitting with os3.1 with loads of patches and hacks.. (which is cool in it's own way) and nothing else..no 68k os3.x updates, no os4, no nothing.

off course, others may have done better or not, or open source would be good or bad.. you never know. my point is, it could have gone really bad, lost O.S 3.x sources or whatever..you might have ended up with just what commodore made and nothing more, but you didn't.. Haage & Partner and later on hyperion gave us something

it could have ended in 1994

that's why i love hyperion, not about what they have done or plans to do or how progress is slow/fast/great/bad.

Amiga OS is still alive. not dead. that's my reason

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@fishy_fis

I find it strange that 42% haters picked that instead of Classic, AROS, MorphOS, WinUAE

what do the haters wont anyway, I think g01df1sh stumbled on to something interesting here, I was also way assuming they belong to other camps, but clearly, they are looking for something that does not exist.

what are the 42% are they Atari, Amstrad people?



anyway there is another way to see this, there are like 4 camps,
MorphOS, AROS, AmigaOS 3.x (Amithlon, WinUAE), AmigaOS 4.x.

Hyperion only support 2 camps, AmigaOS3.x (Classic systems) and AmigaOS4.x (AmigaONE PPC systems)

That's 2 out of 4, that's about 50% of the community, so results are not that strange to me.
what I find strange is that people say won't to hate instead of voting for there own OS choice.

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@noXLar

how exactly do you define alive?

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @noXLar how exactly do you define alive?

Actively developed is the definition. That is true of both Hyperion flavours, it just seems that A-EON contractors have to do the OS4.x heavy lifting with drivers these days and OS3.1.4 developers have to work for free

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@noXLar

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love.. it could have been zero progress after commodores fall.. ever think about that.. stuck with 3.1/3.9 forever..

As a result of some benevolent gesture or because they were contracted out for that service?

Big difference.

@Thread

I wonder (like in the other poll) how some people manage to hijack the polls this way (numbers are totally BS and it shows).

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@thread

I really would not know how to answer this.

The poll question relates to OS 3.1.4, which I am still unsure if it is supported in a A1000, but all the poll choices maybe interpreted to provide a different answer.

Aros is god? How does that answer correlate to the qualities and features of OS 3.1.4?. It is not mutually exclusive.

@Nonefornow

Lol. You wanna say just because you support one genre of this group of os doesn't mean you don't support another? And after a machine just came out which actually supports 2 of these choices (and a third and fourth via emulation) ? gtfo.

I support Linux on a first hand ppc machine. LOL.

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@noXLar

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that's why i love hyperion, not about what they have done or plans to do or how progress is slow/fast/great/bad. Amiga OS is still alive. not dead. that's my reason

I would say the Amiga OS 3.x is alive not because of Hyperion, rather in spite of it.

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@agami

The contract Hyperion had with Amiga Inc did not allow Hyperion to work on AmigaOS3.x, it was Amiga Inc who did not allow that. Only when the settlement agreement was signed was Hyperion given exclusivity to the code, and felt like they can do something with it, the first thing Hyperion did was bundle AmigaOS3.x with AmigaOS4.1, and now you see a bolder move with AmigaOS3.1.4, and you can see all the legal issues that has brought forth.

In addition, if you whined back the time to H&P contract work, on AmigaOS3.5 and OS3.9 is was a break down between Amiga Inc and H&P that stopped the development of classic versions of the operating systems. Hyperion was not involved at the time.

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But the transitional nature of Amithlon and AmigaOS XL wasn’t the biggest problem. Bernd Meyer found out that Haage & Partner had never received a license for the ROMs and operating system from Amiga Inc. Not wanting to expose himself to a lawsuit, Meyer officially withdrew his support from H&P and signed a new contract with Amiga Inc. H&P’s response was to demand that Amiga Inc. transfer ownership of Amithlon or H&P would leave the Amiga market entirely. Amiga Inc. did not agree to this, and H&P made good on its threat. In a statement, Fleecy Moss said that H&P had done “a good job” with AmigaOS during the Gateway years, but that “there can be only one captain and course to steer.” With H&P gone, the captain had no crew left to work on the operating system. The company signed a new contract with Hyperion to write AmigaOS 4.0. By this time, several things had happened, both in the world at large and with Amiga Inc.

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I'll defer to @agami, but I believe the implication is that 4.1 either isn't compatible with the platform of choice or isn't a compelling enough alternative to 3.x.