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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 2-Jun-2019 21:39:23
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@amipal

Vampire accelerator forum, which is classic oriented.
They have stated that A1200 card should be available in retailers during summer.

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=0

There are alot of youtube videos of users and devs demostrating software running as the cpu core was evolving.
On the forumpage you also will see a IRC link. Join, and ask questions.

Then there are English Amiga Board. Great resource for classic hardware.

http://eab.abime.net/index.php

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 6-Jun-2019 1:30:19
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@amipal

Hey man welcome back to the club! You can have load of fun with your classic a1200 and cool Amiga one xe. You don't need upgrades, you can have planty of fun with what you have. For the XE you can also install Mac OSX with Mac On Linux, Linux, Morphos, AND Amiga os4 Final edition which is dirt cheap now like $30.

If you are into music at all definitely check out PT1210 which is a cool dj type software with .mod format and is one of the best pieces of software to come out in a while.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 6-Jun-2019 1:34:14
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@JimIgou

"BTW - Does it serve any purpose to remind everyone that Bill Buck was right about the ArticaS?"

I got BANNED from this very site and hated on by many fanboys for stating this FACT years ago. Even when I told people I was at Motorola headquarters and spoke to their engineers about it (they had Teron 1 (aka amiga one xe) systems running YDL)


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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 6-Jun-2019 1:36:35
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@Overflow

Although promising and cool. Vampire is very unstable and incompatible. His A1200 with Blizzard IV is more than enough power and reliable.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 6-Jun-2019 12:52:53
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@realize

Yeah, his A1200+Blizzard is powerful relatively speaking, but I offer him direction to reading material, so he can evaluate and ask questions based on new/added information.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 6-Jun-2019 13:31:53
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@realize

Do you own a vampire ? how do you how stable it is ?

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Posted on 6-Jun-2019 18:14:27
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Vampire is very unstable and incompatible.??? That's a joke.. Turn on to reality. Vampire is solid like a rock and more compatible than an amiga with blizzard 060..

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 9-Jun-2019 0:01:38
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@Overflow

Thanks! I think I'll give EAB a try.

I'm still setting things up here. Now I finally have a working joystick and mouse for my Amigas, so can at least play games and tinker with the OS. Next step is to get an SD card hooked up to the IDE port - seems like a better idea than installing a hard disk these days.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 9-Jun-2019 0:02:29
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@realize

Cheers realize! I'm already having the mother of all nostalgia trips just listening to the floppy drive tick over... I've got it baaad.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 10-Jun-2019 1:23:00
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@amipal

Ya, if finetuning your original hardware is the main focus, the EAB is THE place to frequent.

Its frequented by hardware wizards and code/developers alike, so most questions you might have will be answered there.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 11-Jun-2019 3:50:58
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@g01df1sh

I had an A600 with the first gen Vampire A600. For over a year. I sold it as its very unstable for doing many things. I don't just play whdload with my amigas like most. The people here saying its rock solid and all that are misrepresenting reality. Yes its come along way since then, but its only stable if you use Specific apps and tools. It is not very compatible, which is the whole point of running a real amiga setup. Otherwise I can just use my peg2 NG

I also used the new a2000/500 versions and same issues, not that compatible.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 11-Jun-2019 3:52:34
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@DrProcton

You are outright misrepresenting things when you say vampire is more reliable than a blizzard 060. Amazing you would say that, maybe fanboys that never actually used a vampire setup believe you , but you know its not true.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 11-Jun-2019 7:11:47
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@realize
I have a vampire v2 on an a600 that replaced my 1200 with blizzard accelerator and I'm very happy with this product (the best amiga add-on since video-toaster, said Stephen Jones, and I fully agree) so when I see blatantly wrong statements (usually from people that have not even tried a vampire) I feel the urgency to step-in.
I don't want to start a flame but when you say vampire is very unstable and incompatible you think to give a correct information?
When you say unstable you mean random crashes? I will assure you, that if the host amiga works correctly, vampire is perfectly stable and can stay powered-on for hours. If you see in the apollo forum the problems you can have on the vampire are either power supply issues or capacitor leaks (the same you would have with a blizzard). On compatibility side, the 68080 have a special "turtle mode" that can be switched-on on boot, this is a feature you don't find on a blizzard and that really improves compatibility over a standard 68060 board.
The point is: Today vampire is a wonderful product, mature and complete. You can prefer other solutions over it for reason of cost-saving or motorola-purism or other (and that's perfectly legitimate), but stating that vampire is unstable and incompatible is far away from reality.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 11-Jun-2019 9:54:58
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We should avoid derailing this thread too much.

The OP asked for forum resources/sites that will help him exploring the classic options for Amiga.

I heard from Truck on the Revision video during the democompo, that Chucky is getting closer completing his 060 board, which is wonderful news if you rather want to go down that road.

Different branches for different people. We shouldnt feel the need to defend/attack options.
Point to forums and videos (youtube etc) demostrating the hardware options, and "live in peace"

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 12-Jun-2019 23:34:20
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I really do appreciate all of your comments, even though I'm currently focusing on getting a classic Amiga 1200 up and running. I've finally dug out my Blizzard 1230, and it actually works - thoroughly surprised and stupidly happy about that.

Next step is getting an SD card as internal faux-hard-disk storage, but unsure if I need a buffered interface?

At some point in the future, I will turn my attention back to the AmigaOne XE!

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 15-Jun-2019 4:14:39
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@amipal

You don't need a "buffered interface" for a cf or sd card setup. You can just use a cheap Chinese adaptor they work fine for this purpose.

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Posted on 15-Jun-2019 4:15:45
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@DrProcton

Id love to hear what software you use that is "rock solid" besides whdload and tweaked programs that are "fixed" for vampire.

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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 15-Jun-2019 10:36:58
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@realize

Do you have a link to a useable CF/SD card setup that works, since there are a multitude of options.

@amipal

I'll link you some Amiga oriented stores that carries hardware you might be intrested in. It would be pointed out that you can find cheaper options if you do like realize, but I tend to support Amiga oriented stores AND then I atleast know it will work.
Nothing wrong going the direction of realize tho.

https://amigastore.eu/en/132-cf-hard-disk-kit-25.html

http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_info.php?products_id=883

http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_info.php?products_id=883

http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_info.php?products_id=440

Again, you can probably find cheaper options for all the things I just linked, but Ill leave it up to others to point you in that direction if they can.

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Posted on 15-Jun-2019 12:09:36
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@realize

If you had the Vampire 1 with a 030 core, you had a point, they where sold as beta-cards, but more then usable in my experience.

The Vampire V2 is mature enough to equal the 68060-cards, I had 2 of them in my 600. They where stable in daily usage. The card replaced my 68060 Blizzard card.

Offcourse there is software, especially old games, that crash on 68030-68060 incl. Vampire,



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Re: It's been a few years, but I'm back - where to start?
Posted on 15-Jun-2019 13:45:33
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@realize

Overflow stated that this argument is off-topic in this thread and I agreed with that, until you replied with another bold-crap post.
You can think whatever you want about vampire cards but it's time for vampire-bashers to show us all the unstability issues and incompatibility of these cards (on video please!!). Show everyone how your well earned money was badly spended on a vampire v2, because everyone (me included) seems to love this card. The complaints come always from people that don't have a vampire v2 on real amigas (windows emulators fanboy who barely spend a penny to support amigas, are the majority) I was not the one that wrote that vampire card are unstable and incompatible, so it's up to you to demonstrate you're right..

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