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Jose 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
Posted on 29-Dec-2019 17:21:10
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@saimo

How many colors can it display at once ?

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Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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@Jose

Without dynamic changes, any 4 colors + background color (the black background in the videos).

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Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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Reprise of the spaceship-travelling-through-tunnel idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be94FYcr1Oc

The tunnel renders in about :
* 1.1 frames on a stock Amiga 1200 (I must say I'm quite disappointed I just can't make it take less than 1 frame);
* 0.28 frames on an Amiga 1200 + Blizzard 1230-IV with 60 ns RAM (the machine used to record the video).

Previous videos:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6wgJbj0Gg
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE8FyrxEhnQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvJmn0-KoE
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH20N0D5kKw

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saimo 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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I managed to get the effect to run in less than one frame also on a stock Amiga 1200. I was trying to be too smart, so I thought I'd try to dumb the code down... and it worked! The time needed to render the tunnel went from ~1.1 frames (~22 ms) to ~0.937 frames (~18.74 ms). On the other hand, unsurprisingly, the simplified code performs worse on expanded machines: on an Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1230-IV with 60 ns RAM, it went from ~0.28 frames (~5.6 ms) to ~0.48 frames (~9.52 ms).

This video shows the effect running on a stock Amiga 1200. The second part shows visually the rendering time: the blue blackground represents the part of a frame (the whole screen + vertical blanking area) taken by the the tunnel rendering; in other words, the non-blue blackground represents the unused time of a frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCvqD-35_zE

Previous videos:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be94FYcr1Oc
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6wgJbj0Gg
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE8FyrxEhnQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvJmn0-KoE
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH20N0D5kKw

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Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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Eventually I used the engine to make a demo. It got released at the Solskogen 2020 demoparty about 1 hour ago. Feel free to watch/download it from https://www.retream.com/THE_CURE (running it on a real Amiga is mandatory to really appreciate it, as a video, due to technical reasons, just doesn't cut it)
The demo comes with a README that explains all the details, including why I dropped the idea of a making game and went for a demo, instead.

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Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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LOVE IT !!!! so awesome to see a new original demo released for our miggies

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nikosidis 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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I watched Solskogen demo party yesterday and we where stunned by your demo that for sure won the compo. Gratz and thank you for the contribution :)

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saimo 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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@klx300r

Many, many


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I watched Solskogen demo party yesterday and we where stunned by your demo that for sure won the compo. Gratz and thank you for the contribution :)

Thank you! Do you mean you were one of those few who had the opportunity of being physically there? If so, I guess that you discovered the demo as it's supposed to (due to its visuals, it isn't video/stream-friendly, so all the others couldn't).

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oh and congrats for 1st place ...beyond well deserved btw

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Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
Posted on 12-Jul-2020 23:12:11
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@saimo

I always go to Solskogen demo party but this year no one could go cause of the Corona virus. I watched the stream on Twitch. I also had vote key and for sure gave you best vote.

I have the demo on my A1200 now. Have watched it 3 times there. Works great. Blizzard MKIV 030, CRT. Thanks again :)

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saimo 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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@klx300r

Quote:

klx300r wrote:
@saimo

oh and congrats for 1st place ...beyond well deserved btw




@nikosidis

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I watched the stream on Twitch. I also had vote key and for sure gave you best vote.

The demo is really unsuitable for streaming and it actually looked quite bad, so double-thanks for the vote!

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I have the demo on my A1200 now. Have watched it 3 times there. Works great. Blizzard MKIV 030, CRT.

My only Amiga has exactly the same board, so that's actually the most tested system I don't have a CRT monitor, though, and I suspect that the demo might look even better on that.

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nikosidis 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
Posted on 13-Jul-2020 11:41:12
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@saimo

That is very cool Saimo. That board rocks :D
I have scan plus AGA, scandoubler so I can use VGA monitors.
17" CRT is very nice monitor size for Amiga.
I also have original 1081 CRT monitor that is great.

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saimo 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
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@nikosidis

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I have scan plus AGA, scandoubler so I can use VGA monitors.
17" CRT is very nice monitor size for Amiga.
I also have original 1081 CRT monitor that is great.

Oh, the similarities continue: I have a ScanPlus AGA, too (bought it because it promised to support all the PAL/NTSC screenmodes, but it doesn't support SHRES, so I'm only half-happy with it) because my ancient C= 1940 died. But it's connected to an LCD, so I can only imagine how the demo looks like on a CRT.

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ferrels 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
Posted on 15-Jul-2020 3:52:07
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@saimo

Very nice stuff. You should put together a portfolio of your videos and send them to some of the big names in pinball such as Stern and Williams. Zen Studios might also be interested as they're pretty much the leader in virtual pinball on Android and Windows. Zen Studios creates a lot of fantasy tables with DMD's and mini-games. The mini-games within the pinball tables are usually played on the DMD.

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saimo 
Re: Dot-matrix engine for AGA
Posted on 15-Jul-2020 11:00:16
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Quote:
Very nice stuff.

Thank you!

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You should put together a portfolio of your videos and send them to some of the big names in pinball such as Stern and Williams. Zen Studios might also be interested as they're pretty much the leader in virtual pinball on Android and Windows. Zen Studios creates a lot of fantasy tables with DMD's and mini-games. The mini-games within the pinball tables are usually played on the DMD.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I wouldn't have anything to show: eventually I did not produce any game, but a demo instead.

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saimo 
Re: Demo THE CURE (Was: Dot-matrix engine for AGA)
Posted on 24-Jul-2020 14:12:01
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I've been asked a few times to release the music separately, and finally I got around to do it! Here it is:

https://soundcloud.com/retream/the-cure

(The quality is higher than in the demo itself due to the limitations of the Amiga hardware - for details, check out the "About the music" post in the Community section of the demo page.)

And sorry for the delay

Last edited by saimo on 24-Jul-2020 at 02:14 PM.

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Re: Demo THE CURE (Was: Dot-matrix engine for AGA)
Posted on 25-Jul-2020 19:46:57
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@saimo

Thanks for sharing.

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saimo 
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You're welcome!

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