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Kraftwerk2 
SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 18-Jul-2019 4:59:05
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I have an A2000 with a A2091 host Adapter. It has a 1G 30 year old HD. I am looking for a replacement and I found this.

https://store.inertialcomputing.com/SCSI2SD-v6-p/scsi2sd-v6-revf.htm

Has anyone tried this?

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Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 18-Jul-2019 6:28:51
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@Kraftwerk2

Yes, I have one for my A3000. It seems to work, but I do get occasional lock-ups during heavy access, not sure about the cause yet. I get about 2MB/s from it with default settings and async SCSI, I have not tried to tune it so far. Some people using it on the AmigaDev slack cannot update the firmware, but that seemed to work for me.

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utri007 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 18-Jul-2019 7:00:24
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@Kraftwerk2

I have understand that Rev 5.X cards work more reliable.
https://store.inertialcomputing.com/SCSI2SD-V5-1-p/scsi2sd-v5.1.htm
I have this
https://store.inertialcomputing.com/product-p/scsi2sd-v5.0b-molex.htm

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Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 20-Jul-2019 5:10:03
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@utri007

Looking at the options, I just ordered a version 6.

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Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 26-Jul-2019 1:30:07
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@utri007

So, I got my V6 card and while it works fine up to. The 4GB limit, I can not format anything above 4 GB without errors. This is with a 3.1.4 kickstart rom in place. What am I missing?

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dalek 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 26-Jul-2019 5:37:44
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@Kraftwerk2

Likely you are missing updated A2091 ROMs (V7) or better still, a Guru ROM .

Last edited by dalek on 26-Jul-2019 at 05:38 AM.
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Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 26-Jul-2019 17:56:05
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@dalek

Where to get those at this point. I am not having any luck teaching in any of the Amiga stores remaining.

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Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 26-Jul-2019 21:35:43
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@Kraftwerk2

Quote:

Where to get those at this point

The author is offering the ROM images on his homepage:

http://babel.de/amiga.html

You need to find somebody who's able to burn these onto a compatible EPROM, dealers won't be able to help you here. Go ask around on other Amiga forms (not here, this place is dead), try eab.abime.net for example.

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SACC-dude 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 26-Jul-2019 22:24:08
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@Kraftwerk2

but first:

7.0 roms are up on ebay all the time..

check that your scsi device is setup to access the card you installed
My scsi 5 was setup for a 2 gig card, I had to use the windows setup software to get a 4 gig seen

Yes, get local Amiga help..

new york? check out Amiga on the Lake

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Kraftwerk2 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 27-Jul-2019 4:10:12
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@SACC-dude

I just ordered the 7.0 roms. I hope that helps.

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SACC-dude 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 27-Jul-2019 4:32:13
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@Kraftwerk2

I had to update my roms on the 2091 and 2630 cards when I updated to 3.1, but I had old roms.

The new sd to scsi cards are great, Less power usage, less heat , faster!
But you have to set them up right with pc software and a usb cable. That threw me.
Alex taught me how to use it right at AmiWest.

Which rom do you have on the motherboard?

which roms are on your other cards? All matching? (or up to date?)

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Kraftwerk2 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 3-Aug-2019 3:27:35
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@SACC-dude

I have the 6.6 Roms on the A2091. I got my 7.0 ROMs today, but it seems they are defective. I can not get the card to boot with them. It goes to the insert disk boot screen.

I suppose I can try to load HDToolbox from floppy any try to rewrite the RDB, but I did not think that would be needed. Old 6.6 ROMs boot right up.

I have a 3.1.4 Kickstart rom in my A2000.

Last edited by Kraftwerk2 on 03-Aug-2019 at 03:30 AM.

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Posted on 3-Aug-2019 3:39:47
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@Kraftwerk2

Okay, basic question.. for (newbies) and to refresh our skills

Did you install the new roms in the correct socket, facing the correct way with the "u" ??

are there any other roms that need "updating?

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Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 3-Aug-2019 5:11:14
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@SACC-dude

Yes, ROMs were in the correct orientation and socket.

I am not aware if any other ROMs need to be updated.

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Posted on 3-Aug-2019 7:36:40
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@Kraftwerk2

Okay then!
Send them back and get working ones!

To check what else is needing updates..

list whatever accessories are in your 2000?

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Kraftwerk2 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 4-Aug-2019 2:50:40
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@SACC-dude

OS3.1.4 w/ Kickstart Rom.
VXL30 40mhz w/ VXL32 w/ 2 MB ram.
Picasso IV w/ Concierto
Adriadne II
A2091 w2MB ram (the SCSI2SD is connected to this)
A2058 w/ 2MB ram (soon 4MB)
A516 Sound card


I am looking to replace the 2MB ram on the VXL, but that is very hard to find.


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Posted on 4-Aug-2019 5:49:46
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@Kraftwerk2

I really don't know.. but if the 2620 and 2630 needed updated roms to work with greater then 2.1
I would think that your 030 might?

Also, on the memory quest, don't forget the 2000 had a max of 9 megs
and that certain cards (like the bridgeboard) required a setup of only six megs in the auto config area.

The picasso4 might fall into the auto config?

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@SACC-dude

OS3.1.4 w/ Kickstart Rom.
VXL30 40mhz w/ VXL32 w/ 2 MB ram.
Picasso IV w/ Concierto
Adriadne II
A2091 w2MB ram (the SCSI2SD is connected to this)
A2058 w/ 2MB ram (soon 4MB)
A516 Sound card


I am looking to replace the 2MB ram on the VXL, but that is very hard to find.


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Kraftwerk2 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 5-Aug-2019 22:02:55
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@SACC-dude

I have given up on using an SCSI2SD as my sole HD. I have way to many errors and have installed this way to many times. I am back to using an old 105MB Quantum drive to boot from. That one gives me far less problems.

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utri007 
Re: SCSI Drive alternative for classic controllers
Posted on 6-Aug-2019 6:30:17
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@Kraftwerk2

Sorry to say that you should have belive me. Amiga shops doesn't even sell v6 sd2scsi cards. Get v5.1 and it will work out of the box.

Last edited by utri007 on 06-Aug-2019 at 06:30 AM.

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SACC-dude 
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Posted on 7-Aug-2019 7:10:20
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@Kraftwerk2

sorry to hear that. my version 5 with 4gig sd card is good as a transfer optionQuote:



Kraftwerk2 wrote:
@SACC-dude

I have given up on using an SCSI2SD as my sole HD. I have way to many errors and have installed this way to many times. I am back to using an old 105MB Quantum drive to boot from. That one gives me far less problems.

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