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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 1-Sep-2019 10:14:08
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every two years there is to pay of new for other new drivers |
No, that's not true. Feel free to continue using the same driver if it works with your graphic card - the driver won't stop working! Only if you want new features or you buy a new card not supported by the old driver will you need to buy an upgrade. Makes perfect sense to me - development costs serious money. "I paid once, so I want all updates for free" is a policy that does not really work on a minority platform such as AmigaOS4. And, as bennymee has said, some updates to the driver actually were free, so...
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150 euros of operative system? |
Yes, it is ridiculous that the drivers are not offered as part of the OS and must be purchased separately from a third party. As I told you on amigans.net: go and complain to Hyperion. They are responsible for the situation, not A-EON.
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Yes there is opengl in OS 4 but not in the Sam460ex. |
AmigaOS4 supports OpenGL ES2 via opengles2.library and Warp3DNova. So any graphic card supported by Nova will allow you to use OpenGL, even on a Sam460ex.
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 1-Sep-2019 12:55:10
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Yes, it is ridiculous that the drivers are not offered as part of the OS and must be purchased separately from a third party. As I told you on amigans.net: go and complain to Hyperion. They are responsible for the situation, not A-EON.
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Maybe because Sam460 has an onboard video card, it's not like anyone must use a ReadionHD card, at all. if bundled that increase the price of AmigaOS4.1 for Sam460, not including it means that sam460 owner who do not need it, don't need to pay for something they are not going to use anyway.
This makes perfect sense.Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 01-Sep-2019 at 01:00 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 01-Sep-2019 at 12:55 PM.
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 1-Sep-2019 21:07:01
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Maybe because Sam460 has an onboard video card, it's not like anyone must use a ReadionHD card, at all. |
The onboard SM502 chip is more like a fallback. It operates up to 1280x1024 (or 1440x900 in 16:9), has only 64MB of graphic RAM, and supports neither compositing nor 3D. If someone is fine with these limitations in 2019, more power to them.
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 3-Sep-2019 18:08:19
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Sorry to ask. Is this price only for the motherboard or a complete system? If it's only for the motherboard it's expensive of course. Expect to find such at nearly 500-550 EUR; no more. |
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 15:35:13
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 16:16:55
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It is for the complete system
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 16:46:24
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Again 950 EUR for a complete system? How much a tower, some memory modules, a hard disk cost to justify that huge difference in price? Even if a licence of AmigaOS 4.1 or MorphOS is included in the bundle. |
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 18:01:04
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| @Samurai AmigaOS4 yeah, but you don't forget the enhacer package for the drivers and updates other 70 euros.
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 18:06:52
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| @Samurai And to buy the key for the IBrowse, because no there are other browse for this sustem.
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 18:10:48
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I don't think an AmigaOS 4 user will use iBrowse, they have Odyssey instead (at least, that's what I used to work with). Enhancer software is not mandatory if I'm not mistaken, Warp3D drivers are sold separately. |
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 4-Sep-2019 20:04:13
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And to buy the key for the IBrowse, because no there are other browse for this sustem. |
Odyssey and NetSurf, ring any bells?
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Re: what is a good or normal price for sam 460ex Posted on 5-Sep-2019 9:27:10
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| @Trixie AwebPPC ring the balls.
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