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Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 6:13:09
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This is copy pasted by me from Apollo forum, check this thread out;
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=23461
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very proud and honored to have the opportunity to unveil tonight details regarding Vampire V4 Standalone sales. As disclosed some weeks ago, first batch will be sold at Amiga34 directly to people attending the event. Next batches will be sold indirectly only by our resellers listed in our WiKi. The Vampire V4 Standalone comes in standard with aluminium case, corresponding PSU and shipped with AROS kickstart. For A34, a special bundle will be made available with free "give-aways" add-ons like compatible Mouse, compatible Keyboard, CF-Adapter a 32GB CF card and an USB Blaster. Later, resellers will have the opportunity to sell their own bundles. Terms & conditions * Payment will be accepted in cash or via PayPal. * Limitation of one unit per person * Offer is available until stock remains, even regarding accessories * No support is offered on accessories/give-aways * Complete warranty terms are available on our WiKi on EXTERNAL LINK Information regarding current state of the standalone core * Ethernet: work is in progress, driver is being written. * USB: support for some input devices like USB mice and keyboards. Support for more is in progress. Compatibility list available on WiKi ( EXTERNAL LINK ) * Joystick : Status support of AMIGA Joy (like Competition Pro) * OCS/AGA: Many games and demos work perfectly, but not 100%. * Boot drives: boot from IDE/CF, microSD card for data exchange. Bootable microSD is in roadmap. Price of that special A34 bundle is 549€ All details are available here :
https://www.apollo-accelerators.com/files/V4_SA_A34Launch.pdf |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 6:44:56
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That is very good news, a great achievement ! Hopefully the demand does not exceed the manufacturing. And reading the announcement, the V4 comes with an Aros Kickstart so the unit can be powered on and used immediatly.
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 12:04:06
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| I'm sure that thosel twenty boards will be sold in few months!
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 13:29:39
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| This is almost double the price I was expecting... That's more than most modern high end video cards... |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 14:16:00
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It's the price point we were expecting for the Tabor so if the Tabor is further delayed people may just allocate their savings for this instead!
It does seem to be expensive but presumably they are moving away from mostly hand built custom V2 boards to minimum order quantity factory production. That would increase costs for small batch numbers wouldn't it? Last edited by BigD on 25-Sep-2019 at 02:16 PM.
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 15:45:29
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| How to compare this with a gfx-card! This is a computer. At least compare with Amiga 68k accelleratiors.
This is high end Amiga hardware. Runs a lot of games, software and that will only improve.
With AROS they have controll of both the hardware and software.
This must be the best and most important news for Amigaworld since 10 years+
Controll to the users and people. Get away from all the stupid legal battles and all the mess Amiga been in for 25+ years.
This is a classic, fun platform that Amiga always been. The take over the world and compete with mothern hardware and operative systems is lost long time ago.
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 16:11:08
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It's the price point we were expecting for the Tabor so if the Tabor is further delayed people may just allocate their savings for this instead!
It does seem to be expensive but presumably they are moving away from mostly hand built custom V2 boards to minimum order quantity factory production. That would increase costs for small batch numbers wouldn't it?
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I am well aware of economies of scale. At this price it's a developer-only launch. |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 16:19:58
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No it's for die hards with years of hurt and failing Classic hardware that want some fun. A-EON, Hyperion and Cloanto are bringing the pain and this is the (expensive) antidote.
If it was a developer release it would have a classic compatible MMU which it still doesn't. _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 17:51:21
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This is a computer. At least compare with Amiga 68k accelleratiors. |
As you said, this is a computer, why compare it with Amiga 68k accelerators? It's not an accelerator which simply plugs into your Amiga, it's a standalone hardware.
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This is high end Amiga hardware. |
How come? Is there something inside there that have resemblance with Amiga hardware? It might be a better alternative to Minimig or MiST, but Vampire it's not new high end Amiga hardware. |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 19:10:26
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Is there something inside there that have resemblance with Amiga hardware? |
Is that a real question? Is there something inside 'high end Amiga hardware' that have (sic) resemblance with Amiga hardware? Like Tabor maybe ... ?
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 25-Sep-2019 23:55:39
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You expected under $300 as configured? I think that's very unrealistic. This seems about as expected. |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 6:23:33
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Whatever we think of the price, this is the first community-created Amiga Put it in an A1200.net case or Checkmate 1500+ with a Kipper keyboard
You'll have a great Amiga and it will look like it too, Community projects created - No Amiga IP Licence Holders Needed Last edited by Argo on 26-Sep-2019 at 06:25 AM.
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 6:44:39
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| Great news and congratulations that it finally will arrive. As I am pretty satisfied with my MorphOS computers I have no urgend need for a Vampire, but could imagine to get one a bit later as well. Nice! _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001) |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 8:14:12
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another news I just read and am very excited about
Reshoot-R in a special Aros 68k version for vampire
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=23508
That is the spirit. I hope others will follow
A independent platform with a free OS that is controlled and developed together
No more companies and single persons hindering progress
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 8:15:44
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 11:41:23
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Whatever we think of the price, this is the first community-created Amiga
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 13:40:52
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You expected under $300 as configured? I think that's very unrealistic. This seems about as expected. |
Yes. ~$325 ... but yes.
I'm not sure why it should cost much more than the V2 and if ordered in sufficient quantity it could cost less.
Many people have been waiting for the V4 and not buying the V2 and many people will be selling the V2 to buy the V4 so I don't see why the price is so high considering the perceived demand.
For instance - they could have worked with resellers to judge the demand and ordered appropriately.
$600 is not an impulse buy. I'd love to spend $400 on a new AMD Radeon 5700XT variant but even $400 is not an impulse buy for me... |
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 18:09:20
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 18:13:21
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$600 is not an impulse buy. I'd love to spend $400 on a new AMD Radeon 5700XT variant but even $400 is not an impulse buy for me... |
Understood, but I did not expect less. The FPGA Replay, much inferior hardware, cost me $360 bare board with no accessories, case, etc. I think these guys need to make some money on this. All the development time spent is worth something.
I was hoping this wasn't pushing $1000, so $600 is right around where I thought it would be.
BTW - where are you in RI? Any local C= or Amiga meetups?
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Re: Vampire V4 Standalone - Details and Price Posted on 26-Sep-2019 18:41:43
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| The price is quite right I feel.
The market is very limited. This is a niche, hobby hardware. For normal people to be interested in this would be so low that we are talking 100 - 150$ I just hope the sales will be good enough to keep the project going. |
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