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pgf_666 
Re: Icaros Desktop 2.3.0 XMAS PREVIEW now available
Posted on 30-Mar-2020 7:27:31
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@paolone

It should be possible--perhaps using WINE or the like--to find a way to either just run the Windows drivers in emulation, or translate them to Linuix/Aros/AOS4 or 3,x....

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Posted on 30-Mar-2020 15:13:10
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@ppcamiga1

I accept AROS for what it is - an open source version of AOS 3.1 …

I also accept PPC platforms for what they are - a big mistake with no support and no future.

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Posted on 31-Mar-2020 5:29:43
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@Lou

Don't bully my friend ppcamiga1. He is only lashing out, because he is deeply scarred. He couldn't let go of his hatred yet, give him time.

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Posted on 5-Apr-2020 5:27:33
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@Lou

AROS on x86 is not Open Source Amiga Os 3.1.
AROS on x86 is worth nothing crap that is not source and binary compatible with Amiga Os and has not memory protection.
First thing that should be done after breaking compatybility is to add memory protection to
os.

Dear lou you accept that AROS is not compatible and has not memory protection it means you have problem with your head.

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Lou 
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Quote:

ppcamiga1 wrote:
@Lou

AROS on x86 is not Open Source Amiga Os 3.1.
AROS on x86 is worth nothing crap that is not source and binary compatible with Amiga Os and has not memory protection.
First thing that should be done after breaking compatybility is to add memory protection to
os.

Dear lou you accept that AROS is not compatible and has not memory protection it means you have problem with your head.

There should be an IQ test to be allowed to post...

So you're saying X86 is not compatible with 68k … STOP THE PRESSES!
Last time I checked - neither is PPCrap...

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OlafS25 
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@ppcamiga1

Aros is also 68k

it is binary compatible. It is 3.1 compatible

And yes it has no memory protection. But the same is true for everything running on PPC. If adding memory protection most amiga software will no longer work

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BSzili 
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@Lou

Don't be so hard on my wounded friend ppcamiga1, he suffered a lot. One day he will be able to let go of his hatred, and stop the bashing, but he has a long journey ahead of him. Instead of insulting him, let's send positive waves in his direction.

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AP 
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@BSzili: Right. And to be fair: Regarding 68k I think ppcamiga1 means the Big/Liittle-Endian-issue. On PPC it is possible to have a well integrated 68k-Emu within the OS (like done in MorphOS and AOS4) on AROS/x86 (and other OSes) its more a sandbox.

AROS is not bad, but the development is too slow and the user-experience (I speak of AROS/x86) is still far behind AOS4 and MorphOS.

AROS68k ist another issue and makes sense, for example as OS for Vampire etc.

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OlafS25 
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Posted on 5-Apr-2020 9:27:19
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@AP

68k is the main platform now for aros

you can add anything 68k related to it

I think the main problem on x86 was missing driver and easy installation on full supported hardware

On the other side... we will see how many people really are willing to buy a new PC to run MorphOS after the ISA change. Phoenixkonsol offered full preinstalled new PCs with Aros but as I understand it only few were interested. We will see what will happen then.

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Posted on 7-Apr-2020 15:50:07
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@Lou

It is very very simple.
Either os is binary compatible with old 68k software either it has memory protection.
aros x86 is not binary compatible with old 68k software and has not memory protection
it means aros x86 is worth nothing shit.
you lou accept this shit aros x86 it means your head is not working.

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@ppcamiga1

but it is very fast "shit" at least

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Lou 
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Posted on 7-Apr-2020 16:41:11
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@ppcamiga1

It's very simple.

AROS_X86/64 is binary compatible with AROS_X86/64.
It will run all software compiled for AROS_X86/64.

That's all it needs to do.

It's also so fast that it can emulate everything else.

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Posted on 9-Apr-2020 11:01:37
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@Lou

little almost no faster than ppc but no compatible.
A foot ahead ppc but miles away from win/lnx/osx.

1. Memory protection
2. Unix compatybility which means java, net core, webkit by configure & make
3. Commercial quality drivers
4. Real SMP
5. 32 bit and 64 bit apps running on the same os at the same time
6. Real hardware platform independence

All this things may be done and should be done after breaking compatybility with 68k apps.

Instead of this some idiots expects Us Amiga users to accept something that is as outdated as ppc as slow as pps but no compatible.

There is no reason why We should change os on Windows 98 level compatible with 68k apps to os on Windows 98 level not compatible with 68k apps.

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Lou 
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Posted on 9-Apr-2020 12:49:23
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@ppcamiga1

The beauty of already being on an X86-64 platform is - if I want to run software from another OS that actually has software - I simply boot from a HDD with that OS on it. No emulation required.

So who cares?

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