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OneTimer1 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 1-Mar-2020 8:53:47
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@GaryG

I don't know if you are using DHCP or not, it is some kind of standard and without further knowledge of your LAN it is the best way for an TCP/'IP connection.

If the connection works you will get an IP address for your Amiga, most TCP/IP stacks in the Amiga have tools like 'ifconfig' 'ping' or 'traceroute'

A tool like 'ifconfig' will give you informations about your TCP/IP connection. When it shows no addresses for your connection, gateway or DNS, you can't go any further. You must iron out this problems first.

ifconfig on my system will produce following output:
Quote:

eth1
Link encap:Ethernet Hardware Adresse 04:d9:f5:cd:d3:c4
inet Adresse:192.168.178.33 Bcast:192.168.178.255 Maske:255.255.255.0

lo
Link encap: Loopback Device
inet Adresse:127.0.0.1 Maske:255.0.0.0


Connection: eth1
IP address: 192.168.178.33

Ping is used for testing of individual connections.

On a working TCP/IP stack it should give results with

ping 127.0.0.1
ping 192.168.178.33 (own address, ifconfig told it to me)

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Hypex 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 1-Mar-2020 12:25:43
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@GaryG

Try adding this to your DEVS:NetInterfaces PLIP file:
debug=yes

See if you get any more info on the DHCP process when connecting.

BTW what model is the DLink?

And, on OSX, does the network configuration have any special particulars, like enterprise login?

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GaryG 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 1-Mar-2020 23:20:36
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@Hypex

Quote:

Hypex wrote:
@GaryG

Try adding this to your DEVS:NetInterfaces PLIP file:
debug=yes

I think I did. Isn't that how I got the information I re-typed here a few days ago?

See if you get any more info on the DHCP process when connecting.

Where would I look

BTW what model is the DLink?

DAP-1650

And, on OSX, does the network configuration have any special particulars, like enterprise login?


I have ipv4, netmask, and router addresses. What else should I look for?

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Hypex 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 2-Mar-2020 15:52:05
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@GaryG

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I think I did. Isn't that how I got the information I re-typed here a few days ago?


I don't know. You would see it inside the PLIP file. I don't see it exactly mentioned on last page. I see ShowNetInterface. But this is from AddNetInterface when it is trying to connect. Not sure, it may appear in output window, but running "AddNetInterface PLIP" in a shell will show debug info if enabled.

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Where would I look


Either an output window on Workbench. Or directly from the shell.

Quote:
DAP-1650


Okay. Looks like a nice one.

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I have ipv4, netmask, and router addresses. What else should I look for?


Some type of passsword in WPA Enterprise settings. If it needs that. Does the
wifi login info mention anything like that? It would be different to the usual SSID and password settings.

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GaryG 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 2-Mar-2020 16:06:17
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@Hypex

Quote:

Hypex wrote:
@GaryG

Quote:
I think I did. Isn't that how I got the information I re-typed here a few days ago?


I don't know. You would see it inside the PLIP file. I don't see it exactly mentioned on last page. I see ShowNetInterface. But this is from AddNetInterface when it is trying to connect. Not sure, it may appear in output window, but running "AddNetInterface PLIP" in a shell will show debug info if enabled.

Quote:
Where would I look


Either an output window on Workbench. Or directly from the shell.

I ran some of those debug tests a few weeks ago and took a picture
of the screen with my iPhone but couldn't post them here, so I re-typed one.

Quote:
I have ipv4, netmask, and router addresses. What else should I look for?


Some type of passsword in WPA Enterprise settings. If it needs that. Does the
wifi login info mention anything like that? It would be different to the usual SSID and password settings.


I don't "log in" to the wi-fi network. My Macbook pro simply autoconnects
when I open it (if I'm within the network's range)

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kolla 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 2-Mar-2020 16:09:29
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@GaryG

But your laptop most likely has credentials installed and logs on to the wifi automatically - this is very much the entire point with 802.1x, which you earlier said that you need to use.

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kolla 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 2-Mar-2020 16:11:55
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Anyways - what we are trying to ask, is if you can connect your mac to the dlink using an ethernet cable, and wifi turned off, and go online via the dlink, the same way the amiga would.

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GaryG 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 3-Mar-2020 10:56:35
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@kolla

I think I tried connecting the Macbook Pro to the DLink via Ethernet cable
and it didn't work. The local IT guy said it wouldn't, if I remember correctly.

If I turn off the wi-fi (the Mac's I presume) how would I connect to the Internet?

In any event I left the DLink at my friend's Sunday and won't be able to retrieve it until late next week in all likelihood

Quote:

kolla wrote:
Anyways - what we are trying to ask, is if you can connect your mac to the dlink using an ethernet cable, and wifi turned off, and go online via the dlink, the same way the amiga would.

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Hypex 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 3-Mar-2020 15:28:13
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@GaryG

Yes, the log in would be handled by macOS, just like it would with any secure wifi network so you don't need to enter login credentials every time you connect. Just like dial up where it logs in but we didn't.

In your OSX network settings there should be a tab with a 802.1X label. Which will contain log in details. Pertaining to your network configuration.

When you get your DLink back and the IT guy comes over again, perhaps ask him to set the router up. Should be easy enough. It has EAP settings for WPA Enterprise in the manual I looked up. That should put the Mac and Amiga online through using the DLink as a wireless adapter.

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GaryG 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 3-Mar-2020 16:08:32
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@Hypex

the 802.1x panel says "Authenticated through EAP-PEAP (MSCHAPv2)" and gives a connect time

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kolla 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 3-Mar-2020 20:26:37
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@GaryG

Exactly, you are logged on using “EAP-PEAP with MSCHAPv2” - also known as PEAPv0. MS as in MicroSoft, CHAP as in Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol - essentially loging on to the wifi using Windows credentials, username, password and optional domain.

Your DLink should be able to do the same, on behalf of the Amiga.

For what it is worth, I do the same, only with a raspberry pi instead of a dlink.

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Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 3-Mar-2020 20:29:25
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@kolla

So, your opinion is that I would have an Amiga connected to the Internet with the DLink connected to the laptop's Ethernet port via a network cable with Roadshow running?

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kolla 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 3-Mar-2020 22:31:48
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@GaryG

No, what I’d try is DLink connected to wifi, Amiga connected to DLink, the Mac not really involved.

Though you may want to use the mac to configure the DLink, before handing it over the Amiga...

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utri007 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 5-Mar-2020 12:49:15
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I just remembered this

http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/Roadie

It is very simple to use GUI for a Roadshow.

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OneTimer1 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 5-Mar-2020 22:48:19
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@kolla

Quote:

kolla wrote:

No, what I’d try is DLink connected to wifi, Amiga connected to DLink



_______ PLIP _______ Ethernet _______ WiFi
| | | Plip | | |
| Amiga |----------| Box |----------| D-Link| ))))))))))))
|_______| |_______| |_______|


What you have to do

The Amiga needs TCP/IP Stack with propper setting for a connection to the PLIP-Box

The PLIP-Box needs proper Settings for a connection to the D-Link

And the D-Link (depending if it is working as an WiFi access point or as a Router) may needs some settings too.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Alternative Configuration if you can set up your Mac as a Router


_______ PLIP _______ Ethernet _______ WiFi
| | | Plip | | |
| Amiga |----------| Box |----------| Mac | ))))))))))))
|_______| |_______| |_______|



What you have to do

The Amiga needs TCP/IP Stack with proper setting for a connection to the PLIP-Box

The PLIP-Box needs proper Settings for a connection to the Mac

And the Mac needs a proper settings to work as a router



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Edit: Typo

Last edited by OneTimer1 on 06-Mar-2020 at 09:21 PM.

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GaryG 
Re: Still need help getting my Amigas connected to a wifi network
Posted on 5-Mar-2020 22:54:03
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@OneTimer1

"D-Mac"?

Anyway, "proper settings" is the problem here. Roadshow starts up when I boot up
but I can't do anything that requires connecting to the Internet.

If I lauch, say, AmiTCP it tells me a TCP stack is already running (!)

A GUI for Roadshow sounds nice (if it can get me further than I already am), but it would require Internet access to download.

I've downloaded it to this Macbook Pro, and the only way to get it to the Amiga is to burn it to a CD.

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