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DFergFLA 
Network Share
Posted on 20-Apr-2020 12:47:46
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Is it possible for Amiga OS 4.1 FE to connect to a network share? The Shared drive is formatted NTFS. But I can change that if needed.

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pvanni 
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Posted on 20-Apr-2020 14:28:29
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@DFergFLA

yes, it's possible, you must use smbfs from OS4Depot
http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=search&tool=simple&f_fields=smbfs

of course it must be a Samba share

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elwood 
Re: Network Share
Posted on 20-Apr-2020 20:26:58
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@pvanni

does it still work with recent Windows like Win10?

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Re: Network Share
Posted on 20-Apr-2020 22:38:50
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@elwood

Only if you are able to tell Windows10 that the protocol SMB1 (?) must be allowed.

The same goes for a NAS or other SMB server.

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NutsAboutAmiga 
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Posted on 21-Apr-2020 7:15:58
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@DFergFLA

Last time I tried smbfs, it was painfully slow, and I had issue like system freezes, when if did not find the PC, or something else happened.

I normally use Filezilla on the PC, and use Dopus5 to connect to it, that worked ok.

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Re: Network Share
Posted on 21-Apr-2020 9:16:31
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@NutsAboutAmiga

did you tried the last version (2.22 from https://os4welt.de)?

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@pvanni

No, as Nils says you need to lower the security in windows10 to use it, the samba protocol its already a security problem without doing that.

I feel we need something new, something that works, where you install a client on the PC to enable it, instead of install hacks on AmigaOS.

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Petah 
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I feel we need something new, something that works, where you install a client on the PC to enable it, instead of install hacks on AmigaOS.

What you are looking for already exists. It's called Envoy, and it's generally regarded as a very well working AmigaOS networking service adapted for streamlined integration within the Workbench environment. Version 3 works in parallell with a TCP/IP services such as Roadshow. On top of that, it is fully compatible with OS 4.1. Here's an article describing what it looks like, and how it works.

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Skateman 
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@DFergFLA

How about setting up ZitaFTP server on your OS4FE machine.
Then dump the files you need on you Amiga using FTP.

Not quite what you asked but then again... it might help you.
There is a trial version on the link below

ZetaFTP Server

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eliyahu 
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@Petah

Is there a good tutorial on setting up Envoy 3.1 on AmigaOS 4? I'm looking for documentation of any little things needed to get it working well on my X5000 and A1222.

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Petah 
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Is there a good tutorial on setting up Envoy 3.1 on AmigaOS 4? I'm looking for documentation of any little things needed to get it working well on my X5000 and A1222.

It's a good question. I'd be happy to write one myself as soon as I get my hands on the Amiga Tabor, but since you're looking for something right now I'm afraid you have to look for something existing. Please report back in case you find something of interest. By the way - I was under the impression that the most recent version of Envoy is 3.0?

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@Petah

Looks like Heinz Wrobel made an update back in 2003. You can find it over on Aminet: http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/Envoy3_1Update

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kolla 
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Posted on 6-May-2020 5:26:47
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@Petah

And how do you integrate Envoy on your NAS?

If only there was open source Envoy server implementation for other relevant operating systems, and not just Amiga. Also, Envoy has UIDs reversed compared to old un*x which is the base for TCP stacks on Amiga, with "nobody" being uid 0 and "administrator" on UID 65535, iirc, this cause some weird issues when running together with AmiTCP or Roadshow etc.

Envoy really is to Amiga what NetBIOS was for Windows and AppleTalk was to old Mac.

Personally I would prefer an open implementation of the Amiga NetFS server - http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/NetFS-revised - I even contacted the author a couple of years ago and got the protocol specifications, with the goal of implementing it in python. But then stuff happened in my life, and it has been put on the ever-growing todo list.

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Posted on 6-May-2020 16:36:57
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@Petah

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What you are looking for already exists. It's called Envoy, and it's generally regarded as a very well working AmigaOS networking service adapted for streamlined integration within the Workbench environment.


Does that mean there is a working client that supports Windows? And is it compatible with Windows 10?

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OldAmigan 
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@eliyahu

The trouble for most of us is that Envoy was a paid for application and what Heinz Wrobel posted to Aminet was an update, not the whole package.

I don't know if it is still available but it would be interesting to find out.

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eliyahu 
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Posted on 6-May-2020 23:12:03
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The trouble for most of us is that Envoy was a paid for application and what Heinz Wrobel posted to Aminet was an update, not the whole package.

I don't know if it is still available but it would be interesting to find out.

My copy came from an old Amiga Developer CD. Does anyone have current contact information for Heinz?

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