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Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 0:24:54
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I recently picked up an amiga 500 plus for my games room. I want it for playing games but i wont be installing a gotek drive or similar because I prefer to just buy a few original games.
It was an impulse buy and i admit to never owning one before... I have a large sega and Atari collection already and ive always wanted an amiga.
Anyway, after buying it I started to do some research and read about the batteries on the main board :o. So i opened it up yesterday and have attached pics of what I found. I think I got lucky? Anyway my questions are:
Does the battery need desoldering? Ive seen videos of people snapping them off but im not sure about that.
Does the battery need replacing? Ive seen new ones on ebay that can be changed when they have expired.
Also ive just discovered the mouse doesn't work... the buttons function and it moves left and right but not up and down. Its a mouse that has a switch so you can switch between Atari ST and Amiga. I tested it on an ST and it worked perfectly. Any ideas what the problem could be?
Lastly, any upgrades anyone can recommend for gaming?
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 4:24:33
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It seems to me, if my memory is working tonight (which is only a 50/50 chance that it is), that one of the CIA chips going bad could be the cause for the mouse malfunction you are describing. I would do a search for CIA chip failures, or functions, and do a bit of research in that direction, unless someone here comes up with a more definite answer for you. Unfortunately, I don't know how to tell which CIA chip has gone bad, or if you can swap them, to verify if it is indeed the problem.
Hopefully, someone here with a better memory, will pop in to tell you other possible solutions, and either confirm my guess, or correct my mistake, very shortly.
Congrats on finding your A500+, and enjoy your first Amiga experiences. I'll never forget mine, with my A1000. I hardly slept for months after getting it.
Edit: Just looked at your pictures, and that battery looks perfectly good. Amazing after all this time. If you are a person who remembers to check things often, or are someone who can put reminders into any electronic calendar, and then follow through when an alarm goes off, just remind yourself to check that battery every few months, and leave it in, until it starts showing signs of bulging, or getting fuzzy, then if it does, replace it immediately, before it can leak and do any damage. Others may suggest to remove it now, and not give it a chance to do any damage. Both suggestions are good, so it just depends on which type of person you are, if you want to take the risk of forgetting to check on it and have it leak in the future.
As for upgrades, take a good long look at the Vampire FPGA board for the Amiga A500. It will allow you to play almost everything ever programmed for the Amiga, including AGA software and games, that could never before be run on an A500+, though some purists will object, most users rave about the performance of the Vampire board. There are more accelerators and other add-on products for the A500 than any other model of the Amiga, so you have many choices. Just read up on all of them and ask questions here, before you make a choice on which one(s) to get. Enjoy! Last edited by amigadave on 17-May-2020 at 04:38 AM. Last edited by amigadave on 17-May-2020 at 04:35 AM.
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 9:08:59
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Hi
Thanks for all that info ill do some research on cia chips and see what I can come up with. I was amazed at the condition of the battery to! I was expecting something much worse when I opened it up.
Im going to take the whole thing apart at some point soon and give it all a good clean so i might look at removing the battery then.
Ill have a look at the Vampire FPGA board it sounds just the kind of thing im looking for.
Heres a pic of some of my current set up, the Amiga will be getting a nicer spot it was only on the floor for testing
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 12:42:54
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| Nice setup. CRT is the way to go with classic Amiga :) |
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 14:49:35
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Welcome to Amigaworld. That's a nice looking Amiga!
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 16:05:30
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Definitely! I only use crt for my retro stuff my only regret is not buying a few more when they were dirt cheap/free |
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 17-May-2020 16:06:39
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Thanks! It was a real bargain for only £35... I think I got a steal and ill soon have it up and running perfectly |
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 19-May-2020 1:13:52
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 19-May-2020 19:22:59
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Argghhh those pics!!! Its coming off this week after seeing those
Luckily I have a decent solder station and kit because I do alot of Sega modifications. Ill remove it and give it a good clean before it does any (more) damage. I tested the mouse port with a mouse that I know definitely works so ill take a look at the denise chips.
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 19-May-2020 21:41:45
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Sad thing is that the degrading of chips and particularly sockets can be quite a distance from the battery and you don't actually see it happening. Worse is that the corrosion can continue on after the battery has long gone. I am currently reworking six A500 Plus motherboards and going though the whole processes again. The tops of solder junctions just go like powder and legs to resistors go green. Plus socket connectors go green and degrade. The AGNUS is the one that creeps up on you cus you can't even see the pins being destroyed. And sadly when you remove a chip you take out half of the socket connectors. I've even lost sockets on the ROM chip.
On the 2000 they stuck the blasted battery right next to the CPU and it just eats the legs and socket seats. I've had what look like perfectly good batteries sitting there only to discover their destruction a little way in under the floppy cradle on the 2000. And like I said there are two sides to a motherboard and they really are full of holes.
It is not simply a problem of the Amiga. I have removed all the batteries from Acorns. They are a lot more sturdy and quite tricky to get at.
I have two Amstrad MegaPCs that have the Sega Megadrive inside the PC. The two I had had been stored upside down and the battery leaked into the lid. I was able to remove and they still work.
They really are a pain. Remember that the A1200 and A600 do not have a battery unless you have one on a card. So it really is no big deal not having a battery.
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Re: Amiga 500 plus Posted on 21-May-2020 16:37:59
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