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New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 13:34:40
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| I put a radeon R5 230 with 2 gig (Asus) in my Sam460 cr instead of my Radeon 7700. better 3D. With HDMI Boot the computer up to loading the Kickstart. The moment I would see Amiga os4.1 boot logo it does not appear and there is no more video signal. With the VGA port, the computer can charge up to the workbench. Games like Spencer, quake dark places no longer start and the computer reports errors. ( dsi, data storage interrupt, redzone no damage, ) Tower 57, blastaway works, the internet works. I installed the Enhancer software that I bought from Aeon this year. At a partion of the previous owner I found and installed the driver of Warp3d Southtem islands and that install i also. What would be the cause and how to fix it? _________________ Amiga 500+, Pi 3b+ and Amiga os 3.10 Amikit XE usb Stick Powerbook 17" and MorphOS 3.13 PowerMac G5 2.3 MP and MorphOS 3.13 Sam 460 with Amiga os 4.1 and checkmate 1500 www.sitedesign.be |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 13:51:55
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You seem to have several issues. I will address the 3D ones There is NO 3D support for these cards. EDIT (R5-230's) 3D support exists for Radeon SI Cards and Polaris Cards (Rx550 & Rx560) Polaris does not currently support all old Warp3D programs. Some work via MiniGL4GL4ES . See the following thread for some info , https://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?forum=4&topic_id=8172&order=
Last edited by Spectre660 on 29-May-2020 at 07:45 PM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 29-May-2020 at 01:53 PM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 29-May-2020 at 01:52 PM.
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 17:45:41
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 17:59:20
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Where did you see the "HD" in his description? It might be a vanilla Radeon 7000 series like the MicroA1 had. |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 19:34:45
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i have the 7700 not the 7770. the 7700 has not the 3d support.
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 19:52:07
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http://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?title=Warp3D_Nova
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Warp3D Nova is a modern shader based 3D graphics API (Application Programmers Interface) and driver system for modern GPUs (Graphics Processing Units).
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AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6 or newer RadeonHD or RadeonRX driver from the Enhancer Software A supported graphics card: Radeon HD 77xx-79xx series graphics card (excluding the Radeon HD 7790) Radeon HD R7 240/240D Radeon HD R7 250E/250/250X/265 Radeon HD R9 270/270X/280/280X Radeon RX 460/470/480/540/550/560D/560/570/580
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Radeon RX 570/580 may be have issues with Warp3D Nova at the moment .Last edited by Spectre660 on 29-May-2020 at 07:53 PM.
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 20:34:06
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i have the 7700 not the 7770. the 7700 has not the 3d support. |
In your first post you mention that games like Spencer don't work on the R5 230 suggesting that they were working on the 7700. Unless you were using Wazp3D (if those games run with it) then the card must supported by the 3D drivers. |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 21:45:26
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I'm afraid I bought the wrong graphics card. Very unfortunate of course. I had read that it worked with amiga os4.1 and I thought it had 3d support. apparently not. I don't find it all simple with amiga os4 to know what and how. Software 3d and hardware 3d support. _________________ Amiga 500+, Pi 3b+ and Amiga os 3.10 Amikit XE usb Stick Powerbook 17" and MorphOS 3.13 PowerMac G5 2.3 MP and MorphOS 3.13 Sam 460 with Amiga os 4.1 and checkmate 1500 www.sitedesign.be |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 21:48:08
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It just works, I don't remember if I used certain libs. Where can I see this? sys / libs drawer? _________________ Amiga 500+, Pi 3b+ and Amiga os 3.10 Amikit XE usb Stick Powerbook 17" and MorphOS 3.13 PowerMac G5 2.3 MP and MorphOS 3.13 Sam 460 with Amiga os 4.1 and checkmate 1500 www.sitedesign.be |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 21:52:58
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 22:43:43
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There should be Wazp3D prefs in the prefs drawer and in libs it would be warp3d.library, it replaces the standard warp3d.library.
What 3D application didn't run on the 7700? |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 29-May-2020 23:30:06
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Not every individual model graphics card will work with all PCie capable machines. What works on the X5000 and X1000 may not work on the Sam460ex. And what works on the X5000 & Sam460ex may not work on the X1000 (Polaris cards are currently in this category) .
2D support is not the same as 3D support. Some cards have 2D support under Amiga OS 4.1 FE like the R5-230 but no 3D support. Any card with 3D support under AMigaOS4.1FE also has 2D support .
The compatibility list that you are linking to is outdated and only covers 2D support.
The Radeon SI based and Polaris based cards are the ones that support 3D. The newer model Radeon SI based cards that are compatible with the Sam460ex are more difficult to find.
Polaris RX550 and RX560 cards are more likely to work with the Sam460ex. However you will not get any U-Boot display with these while booting. So you go from a blank screen into WorkBench .
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 9:22:17
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the computer games I have are working. But I thought it was going to work faster. Dark places is ok (800x600), but starwars jedi knight acedemy is very slow, too slow. that's why I was looking for another card. And the R5 is much quieter without the fan. _________________ Amiga 500+, Pi 3b+ and Amiga os 3.10 Amikit XE usb Stick Powerbook 17" and MorphOS 3.13 PowerMac G5 2.3 MP and MorphOS 3.13 Sam 460 with Amiga os 4.1 and checkmate 1500 www.sitedesign.be |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 9:27:03
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Thanks for the info. bad buy from me
Maybe I can make someone with an X1000 or X5000 happy with the r5. The enthusiast gets them from me for free. send me PM. Only the shipping costs. And that will not be very expensive I think. Last edited by dirkzwager on 30-May-2020 at 09:28 AM.
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 10:24:34
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Probelm is that looking on hansderuiter webpage says "Tested on an A1-X5000".
I too bought a r7-250 and worked fine in X5000 (IIRC), but on my SAM460ex doesn't (some Uboot incompatibility or alike).
Now I have/use an RX550 and works fine. Can't see Uboot menu, but no problem under Workbench/AmigaOS. |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 12:23:26
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Starwars jedi knight acedemy is going to be slow with any graphics card on the Sam460ex. Most games are ok but this one is slow. It is based on the old Warp3D/Minigl. You can try lowering some of the graphics details setting in the game configuration.
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dirkzwager wrote: @Rob
the computer games I have are working. But I thought it was going to work faster. Dark places is ok (800x600), but starwars jedi knight acedemy is very slow, too slow. that's why I was looking for another card. And the R5 is much quieter without the fan. |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 13:27:25
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Then I will put my "old" radeon 7700 back into my Amiga. _________________ Amiga 500+, Pi 3b+ and Amiga os 3.10 Amikit XE usb Stick Powerbook 17" and MorphOS 3.13 PowerMac G5 2.3 MP and MorphOS 3.13 Sam 460 with Amiga os 4.1 and checkmate 1500 www.sitedesign.be |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 13:28:36
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Next time I buy a card again, I first ask advice here on the forum. Thanks for your tips _________________ Amiga 500+, Pi 3b+ and Amiga os 3.10 Amikit XE usb Stick Powerbook 17" and MorphOS 3.13 PowerMac G5 2.3 MP and MorphOS 3.13 Sam 460 with Amiga os 4.1 and checkmate 1500 www.sitedesign.be |
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 14:46:58
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Before you buy a new card can you try the Warp3D Nova demos with the 7700. Wazp 3D only patches Warp3D functions and not Nova so if the demos run then your card is supported in 3D. I just want to be sure before you spend more money.
The demos should be in the following location.
Workbench:Utilities/AMIStore/Downloads/ENSWPLOS4/EnhancerSoftware/Installation_Files/SDK/Warp3DNova/Examples/
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Re: New radeon r5 230 in sam 460, help !!! Posted on 30-May-2020 14:56:15
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I noticed in your signature that you have the Sam in an A1500+ case. Does that mean that the case is configured with 4 vertical card slots at the back or does it have 2 horizontal slots?
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