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Bosanac 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 16:59:41
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@cdimauro

Quote:
I'm NOT an hardware designer Regarding my domain, I did MY part: designing the chipset.


chipset
/ (ˈtʃɪpsɛt) /

noun
a highly integrated circuit on the motherboard of a computer that controls many of its data transfer functions

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chipset

So did you design some hardware or not?

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Gunnar 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:02:34
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@cdimauro

Quote:

I'm NOT an hardware designer
Regarding my domain, I did MY part: designing the chipset.


LOL
You can't do hardware but you design a chipset?

You mean like a 5 year old boys designs a flying car with build in warp engine?


How does this work?
A put a 256Bit Blitter here, a 512 Bit FPU there, and 1024 bit CPU here.
Now I have made the best Chipset of the world!

I bet this was very hard!
Well done!


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cdimauro 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:03:32
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@Bosanac

Quote:

Bosanac wrote:
@cdimauro

Quote:
I'm NOT an hardware designer Regarding my domain, I did MY part: designing the chipset.


chipset
/ (ˈtʃɪpsɛt) /

noun
a highly integrated circuit on the motherboard of a computer that controls many of its data transfer functions

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chipset

So did you design some hardware or not?

OK, so you don't know about what you talked about...

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cdimauro 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:04:03
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@Gunnar

Quote:

Gunnar wrote:
@cdimauro

Quote:

I'm NOT an hardware designer
Regarding my domain, I did MY part: designing the chipset.


LOL
You can't do hardware but you design a chipset?

You mean like a 5 year old boys designs a flying car with build in warp engine?


How does this work?
A put a 256Bit Blitter here, a 512 Bit FPU there, and 1024 bit CPU here.
Now I have made the best Chipset of the world!

I bet this was very hard!
Well done!



Same as above...

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Gunnar 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:07:58
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@cdimauro

The point of designing a chipset is that it actually works.
Planning some pipe dream fantasy features.. on a piece paper is NOT worth anything.
Do you understand this?

Anyone can on piece of paper "plan" a city on the moon.

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cdimauro 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:09:43
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@Gunnar

Quote:

Gunnar wrote:
@cdimauro

The point of designing a chipset is that it actually works.
Planning some pipe dream fantasy features.. on a piece paper is NOT worth anything.
Do you understand this?

Anyone can on piece of paper "plan" a city on the moon.


So there's no difference with an hardware engineer which fills the holes...

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Gunnar 
Re: The (Microprocessors) Code Density Hangout
Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:17:04
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@cdimauro

Why don't you show us your design plans?
Please show us, so we can have a laugh.

Your TINA plans and postings were absolutely clueless.
You had zero idea what is technically possible,
even the simplest hard fact like memory bus width were absolutely nonsense.
You planned for a wider external memory bus than your chip had pins!
How did you plan to connect the memory?
Over Wifi?

Your plans were as ridiculous as painting a car on a piece of paper:
Ok now I put a 16 liter engine here, here I put 4 turbos, and here 2 times methanol injection, and a 8 liter gas tank, because my engine as very efficient and lets add some wings!
Wow what a great car I designed!





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Bosanac 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:24:47
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@cdimauro

Did you also win at Sim City once and now you are a successful politician?

If only those ones in real life did what you did in a game of fantasy eh!

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cdimauro 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:29:02
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@Gunnar

Quote:

Gunnar wrote:
@cdimauro

Why don't you show us your design plans?
Please show us, so we can have a laugh.

Ask Olaf to make his forum public and you'll find almost everything there.

Yes, the same forum that YOU joined and contributed with your posts, but I don't recall critics by you to my ideas on how to enhance the Amiga chipset.
Quote:
Your TINA plans and postings were absolutely clueless.
You had zero idea what is technically possible,
even the simplest hard fact like memory bus width were absolutely nonsense.

Like your non-sense about adding another 8 bitplanes to have a total 16? That's what YOU have written on Olaf's forum.

Why I don't see it on SAGA?

Ah, yes: maybe because I've mathematically PROVED you on Olaf's forum that planar graphic had issues scaling with the number of bitplanes with the modern memory interfaces, and that packed graphic was much better / more efficient.

Guess what: I don't see your weird ideas implemented on SAGA...
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You planned for a wider external memory bus than your chip had pins!
How did you plan to connect the memory?
Over Wifi?

It's clear that you DO not read what I write. As I've already said, the memory bus and the hardware implementation was driven by the owner of the company.

So, NOT my problems
Quote:
Your plans were as ridiculous as painting a car on a piece of paper:
Ok now I put a 16 liter engine here, here I put 4 turbos, and here 2 times methanol injection, and a 8 liter gas tank, because my engine as very efficient and lets add some wings!
Wow what a great car I designed!

Don't confuse me with you: my chipset design was realistic and future proof.

In fact, you had nothing to say about that on Olaf's forum.

Whereas YOUR idea of 16 bitplanes was... ehm... you can find the term yourself.

And wasn't you that planned to add WAY MORE sprites? Same "good" idea, but I don't see them on SAGA...

Anyway, you clearly have no idea about the concepts of "interfaces" and their "implementations". Your posts (this and the previous one) proves it.

BTW, I'm still waiting the documentation about your 68080: don't forget to prove YOUR statement...

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cdimauro 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:30:43
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@Bosanac

Quote:

Bosanac wrote:
@cdimauro

Did you also win at Sim City once and now you are a successful politician?

If only those ones in real life did what you did in a game of fantasy eh!

Well, at least I've fantasy, whereas some people aren't able to think out-of-order and are "framed"...

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Gunnar 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:33:19
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@cdimauro

Quote:

Don't confuse me with you: my chipset design was realistic and future proof.


And how many people use your chipset? Does anyone use your chipset at all?

My CPU is used by about 10,000 people. Ten thousand.

There is difference between doing and talking.

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cdimauro 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:35:18
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@Gunnar

Quote:

Gunnar wrote:
@cdimauro

Quote:

Don't confuse me with you: my chipset design was realistic and future proof.


And how many people use your chipset? Does anyone use your chipset at all?

My CPU is used by about 10,000 people. Ten thousand.

There is difference between doing and talking.

Do you understand yourself that it's a logical fallacy?

The great hardware engineer that falls on so common fallacies...

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Gunnar 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:39:27
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@cdimauro

I wish I could be as smart as you... Please teach us more of your wisdom!

Please tell us more about your realistic and future chipset design (on paper!)

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Bosanac 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:39:58
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@cdimauro

Quote:
Well, at least I've fantasy, whereas some people aren't able to think out-of-order and are "framed"...


Fantasy is all you will ever have.

You could prove your Duplo chipset is better than Gunnars by starting your own business and having it manufactured.

Well be waiting a long time as its clear you dont have what it takes to take risks. Weve already established you are a wage slave.

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cdimauro 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:42:35
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@Gunnar

Quote:

Gunnar wrote:
@cdimauro

I wish I could be as smart as you... Please teach us more of your wisdom!

Should I teach you about elementary logic?

Aren't you able ton understand why what you've written is a logical fallacy? Should I explain you?
Quote:
Please tell us more about your realistic and future chipset design (on paper!)

Hey, you've already shown that you don't read what people write: you don't need to prove it each time. From the previous post:

"Ask Olaf to make his forum public and you'll find almost everything there.
"


If it's not clear I can draw a picture for you.

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cdimauro 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:44:32
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@Bosanac

Quote:

Bosanac wrote:
@cdimauro

Quote:
Well, at least I've fantasy, whereas some people aren't able to think out-of-order and are "framed"...


Fantasy is all you will ever have.

You could prove your Duplo chipset is better than Gunnars by starting your own business and having it manufactured.

Another logic fallacy: what a NEWS with you.
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Well be waiting a long time as its clear you dont have what it takes to take risks. Weve already established you are a wage slave.

Ah, ok. You now become also a judge.

Which makes sense: sense you're unable to play in attack then it's better to move to the referee role.

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Bosanac 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:49:29
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@cdimauro

Prove me wrong.

Build your fantasy football league chipset.

Whilst you are at it build your x64 killer CPU to go with it.

What is stopping you?

Fear?

The internal monologue that you refuse to listen to that tells you that you are a fantasist with delusions of grandeur?

Please tell us.

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Gunnar 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 17:50:57
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@cdimauro

Quote:

Ask Olaf to make his forum public and you'll find almost everything there.


So you really think that posting a childish wishlist of features
is designing a chipset, or designing a CPU?

What will you do next?
Will you post a pipe dream wishlist of ideas about a future cars in a forum,
and then go to Porsche and tell them that you designed a much better and much more future proof car than them?

I hope they will be as impressed as we are.

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cdimauro 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 19:26:45
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@Bosanac

Quote:

Bosanac wrote:
@cdimauro

Prove me wrong.

Build your fantasy football league chipset.

Whilst you are at it build your x64 killer CPU to go with it.

What is stopping you?

Fear?

The internal monologue that you refuse to listen to that tells you that you are a fantasist with delusions of grandeur?

Please tell us.

Gosh. In Italy we are used to say "servire la testa su un piatto d'argento" (roughly translated as "serving the head on a silver dish").

As usual, you don't read what people write. In fact, I've already created the architecture that kills not only x64, but all others (that I know). AND I've posted some preliminary (because results could be much better having a backend for it, which could allow to fully exploits its features) in this thread:
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=44169&forum=17&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0#841312
Nice, eh?

BTW I haven't yet shown the slides with the comparisons between its vector unit and Intel's AVX-512, RISC-V's vector extension, and ARM's SVE (vector extension as well), because its more embarrassing for them.

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Bosanac 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2022 19:31:48
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@cdimauro

Im not asking for PowerPoint slides.

Im asking you to build it and sell it to me.

Im married to an Italian woman btw, Im more than familiar with the napoleon complex in many of you.

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