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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 15:45:22
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 16:13:27
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when Amiga Inc first sued Hyperion in 2005 |
You mean 2007.
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they did this becouse Hyperion failed to deliver the product on time |
the word "final" triggered the lawsuit, and it was inevitable the day would come when that label would be applied.
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Amiga Inc did not have the money to pay for all the work that was agreed. |
Billionaire Pentti Kouri at the time didn't have the remaining pittance?
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this resulted in a settlement agreement. |
Pentti Kouri died. That's the -only- reason Hyperion didn't go bankrupt at the time and the only reason why the parties reached settlement.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 16:18:42
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this is why Hyperion and Amiga Inc could not agree on whether the price
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There was never a disagreement about the actual price - and AInc actually did pay the required amount of money. The disagreement was about a lot of other things. |
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 17:48:22
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 18:34:53
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| Cool news.
But I think a 3.2 release has to be followed up by a Walker release and I don't see that coming out of nowhere
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 19:31:14
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Yeah Vox shared this with me link. _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1 |
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 20:27:07
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| @thread
3.2 FAQ is also on Aminet
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 20:47:26
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Bet 3.2 doesnt have a TCPIP stack. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 16-May-2021 21:50:57
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Bet 3.2 doesnt have a TCPIP stack. |
It's not listed so why bet?
It's not as important to have TCP/IP as it may have been when 3.5 and 3.9 were released. A lot of users don't need it or already have it covered so it would be a waste of money to include one. |
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 17-May-2021 4:59:52
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It’s not really a OS selling feature but the new Reaction based Show Config screen looks a lot better than the simple text output!
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Looks better? A pointless noninteractive GUI that now is default? I wished for ShowConfig to have output that could more easily be parsed, and even LFORMAT option, rather than a built in dependency on reaction classes. With this, all scripts ever that used the only system tool that can show hardware listing, will have to be rewritten? Awesome._________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 17-May-2021 9:14:19
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Some people are smarter than you and already preempted your concerns - when run from command line it will output plain text just as it always has. _________________
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 17-May-2021 12:26:21
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That is what I would have suggested, but not what Gulliver suggested somewhere - an option to not get GUI - the faq say the opposite though.
The fact that a useless GUI was prioritized over output formatting says that perhaps those so called smarter people aren’t so smart after all.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 17-May-2021 15:15:01
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The most modern browser for the 68k Amiga is NetSurf which uses Reaction, a new feature added to AmigaOS 3.2. It would be interesting to hear how well NetSurf works with AmigaOS 3.2 Reaction as development would be easier with better compatibility to the AmigaOS 4 Reaction. |
Well, I've taken the plunge and ordered it, so we'll see. It should fix all the annoying bugs in the classes I was working around/ignoring. If this is the case I may make it require 3.2/v47 as a minimum - it will remove a lot of horrid OS3 branches.
Something which is interesting from the FAQ that I wasn't aware of, is that P96 has a "native" driver, so I need to test that as I can get rid of a lot of OS3 specific graphics code if it works OK.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 17-May-2021 22:15:00
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 17-May-2021 22:16:48
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 18-May-2021 0:41:51
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It will add taxes and shipment fees..
I would consider waiting.. I heard development for AmigaOS 3.3 has already started. Does it make sense to spend money twice?
Besides you have to copy some libraries from OS3.9 to OS 3.2 because some software requests it.
I think you should stick with OS3.9 at least until 3.x is completely compatible to 3.9.
Also if you plan to buy it for the new A1200 you just got, remember it has the 3.0 ROM and it is a Commodore machine, this new OS is not coming from Commodore. It might brick your newly aquired A1200. And if you buy the CD, you will need a CD-ROM.
Also #2, I read in the FAQs that you can not simply copy the files over, it is more complicated than that. I think Ben should have put a warning in the announcement for this. And also warn us, that you need a CD-ROM drive to install the CD-ROM version. It might seem obvious to most, but people returning to the Amiga after 20 years of so, might have forgotten. Bad choice Ben! |
Why do you think my friend didn’t have a CD-Rom as part of his stash? He had a Zip Drive too I’d need to upgrade to 3.1 Roms to use OS3.9 anyway so I might as well just get the OS3.2 Kickstart Roms and try out the new OS! Maybe TFX runs on 3.2 as I could never get it to run on OS3.9! Swings and roundabouts _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 18-May-2021 0:48:06
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... also the integrated ADF mounting features are a pretty big deal. Maybe it’s the ideal WHDLoad/run your converted floppies from mounted ADFs game machine?
The more I think about it the more it seems like an acceptable means to an end and I understand why people are prepared to ‘work’ with Hyperion to get things done. What’s the alternative? Piracy with CoffinOS or AROS which has zero traction in a crowded Amiga-like market? Last edited by BigD on 18-May-2021 at 12:52 AM. Last edited by BigD on 18-May-2021 at 12:51 AM. Last edited by BigD on 18-May-2021 at 12:49 AM.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 18-May-2021 5:57:36
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| for us Canadians https://retrorewind.ca/amigaos-3.2 will be selling the CD & phycial roms/disks too
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 18-May-2021 6:34:10
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available Posted on 18-May-2021 18:34:01
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| BigD is holding strong till 3.3 comes out.
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