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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 1-Jun-2021 19:29:44
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My friends,
I keep looking at this thread, and reading it as "What is the TASTE of Amiga hardware now?"
AH this messy kitchen, oh friends of mine, this crowd of cooks pushing and pulling and twisting and turning, a spicy dash FPGA here, a pinch of stale PPC there, a bittersweet tablespoon of ARM sprinkled all over.
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The FPGA has the addictive spicy flavor loved by so many until it was not available anymore. Now it is just a tease of the flavor that is not spicy enough. Maybe it needs to go in the toaster on a wafer to enhance the flavor to what it used to be. The flavor really came out before in a toaster.
PPC connoisseurs would rather use the word aged than stale. You can call it stale and I would agree that it hasn't aged well despite being at the top of some of the most expensive menus at one time. The problem was that it looked good but never tasted good to the majority of people. Now there are alternatives which look at least as good, taste better and won't leave you as bloated.
ARM ends up sprinkled on everything because it is such a cheap spice. It's had a weak and inconsistent flavor but it's not bad for a cheap spice. ARM has recently made the spice bolder, more consistent and prettier although the flavor has caused minor bloating but not as bad as PPC. It has replaced PPC on most of the menus.
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So many flavors, so many ingredients, but in the end - always the same taste: shyte™©®.
At least, it's low-carb stuff.
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All those older harder to find spices are less filling compared to popular ones today. They can be really tasty in small sizes if the ones which cause bloating are avoided. The 3 popular spices which have taken over the world really get old and aren't that great of flavor anyway. Variety is the spice of life after all.
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 1-Jun-2021 19:35:51
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... mmmmm, what do you think the taste of yellowed left out in the sun A1200 case plastic is? Vanilla mixed with caramel or a 50 a day fag (cigarette for our US friends ) hag’s sofa? _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 2-Jun-2021 1:17:17
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 2-Jun-2021 5:49:10
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Of course I also dream of an amiga laptop. But when you wait for others to take action after you've released your laptop isn't going to work. This needs to be a team effort. |
There is also one little thing, has anyone commited to actually manufacturing these outside of 3 prototypes. |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 3-Jun-2021 23:54:57
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It's always valuable to read an educated opinion of someone who stopped using OS4 eleven years ago. |
Said by a person who still uses an OS that's stuck in 1998..... |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 4-Jun-2021 6:45:55
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Your personal experience with OS4 is so dated and your knowledge of the current state of the platform is so limited that it makes me wonder which part of your cerebral cortex believes that you still have something to say on the topic.
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 4-Jun-2021 14:37:10
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I'm waiting for a 68LC060 card for my A1200. _________________ Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 64 GB RAM, GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Amiga 1200 (Rev 1D1, KS 3.2, PiStorm32lite/RPi 4B 4GB/Emu68) Amiga 500 (Rev 6A, KS 3.2, PiStorm/RPi 3a/Emu68) |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 8-Jun-2021 18:23:57
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There are three non functional dual layer pcbs without components. Mainly used for mechanical fit check. (Why they used ENIG finish instead of the cheaper HAL on a mechanical fit board is a mystery to me).
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I assume you meant HASL instead of HAL. This is being built in Europe, so lead-free is a requirement. https://blog.epectec.com/why-is-lead-free-hasl-finish-a-hassle
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For me, without an amiga team effort, this is a linux laptop which might run amigaos4 one day in the distant future. So at this point, it makes no sense for me to make a donation.
Apparently acube is somehow involved. But to what extend is unknown. |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 8-Jun-2021 20:03:48
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.... but the X5000 is no longer sold ... |
They ran out of licences, I don't know if they can sell the AmigaOne X 5000 with MorphOS instead, the same thing was told about the A1222/Tabor.
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 8-Jun-2021 20:05:49
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There are three non functional dual layer pcbs without components. |
Dual layer PCBs will hardly work, even with components. |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 8-Jun-2021 20:19:22
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They ran out of licences, I don't know if they can sell the AmigaOne X 5000 with MorphOS instead, the same thing was told about the A1222/Tabor. |
Hilarious!
For there to be any quantity of £1750 X5000 stock sitting at AmigaKit because they didn't renegotiate OEM license agreement shows you how slowly X5000 are now being sold! That would wipe out a 'regular' computer business to have a stock embargo e.g. the CD32 not being allowed to be sold in the USA!
The Amiga World is crazy! It's like Commodore witholding payment to MOS Semiconductors to virtually bankrupt and then buy them for a knock down price! History repeating but no one at MOS moonlighted as an IP lawyer! Ben Hermans will let the motherland burn before he sells out for the good of the users
POPCORN!!! Last edited by BigD on 08-Jun-2021 at 08:20 PM.
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 12-Jun-2021 17:32:20
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HAL ( Hot air leveling) and HASL (Hot air solder leveling) are the exact same finish. |
I have heard that lead-free HASL (/HAL) is more difficult to build than ENIG leaded HASL.
Maybe it's just a policy between those who made the order and the fab? I don't know if the mechanical dummies were build in Italy, but the mostly Italian project likes to keep as much as possible within Italy, and I am not sure if there are rules or strong preferences regardless of application for things built there._________________ All glory to the Hypnotoad! |
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 13-Jun-2021 15:36:32
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geen_naam wrote: @OneTimer1
Since the board is without components and serves as a mechanical model only, ...
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They could have used cardboard instead.
But the biggest problem aside of missing components is the missing licence. There is still so much hardware around, but no AOS4 licences.
Maybe they can get MOS easier but could is compete with 10 years old used Mac hardware?Last edited by OneTimer1 on 13-Jun-2021 at 03:37 PM.
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Re: What is the state of Amiga hardware now? Posted on 13-Jun-2021 15:44:54
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Maybe they can get MOS easier but could is compete with 10 years old used Mac hardware? |
The old mac's, also comes with a old graphic card, something to consider, when you buy one. Make sure pick a mac that has a graphic card that MorphOS supports full, youtube playback needs overlay support as a minimum, on MorphOS. Or buy mac that allows you to swap out the old gfx card with a supported graphic card. if its not included.Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 13-Jun-2021 at 03:54 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 13-Jun-2021 at 03:51 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 13-Jun-2021 at 03:50 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 13-Jun-2021 at 03:45 PM.
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