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Jason Hou, then CEO of Mai Logic, described how his company’s Articia chip technology was stolen
Posted on 19-Jul-2022 2:15:35
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Since last year Jason Hou, who was CEO of Mai Logic in the 2000's and his business partner Ms. Fukada(*) have actively begun talking spy attacks against Mai Logic on the YouTube. Briefly, the story goes as as follows. "Mai Logic signed a chip (Aureate for IBM PowerPC Open Platform) design contract with Winbond, a Taiwanese chip manufacturer in 1997. Soon the technology was stolen by them and was sent to China to be used in Chinese J-31 fighter aircraft with the help of Taiwan Investigation Bureau and Huawei. Later (2003~2004) when Mai Logic attempted to develop the Articia P chip for the US F-35 fighter, the Taiwanese design service companies (Innochip and Socle Technology) that had been contracted to do the chip design works refused to deliver the chip to Mai Logic. These events allowed the Chinese military to close the technological gap with the US military."
For those involved in chip design, such a story is hard to believe. We immediately began researching Jason Hou and his accomplishments and have recently finished it. Our work would never have completed without the information available on the AW forum. We would like to thank the AW folks who did the initial research nearly 20 years ago and to share our finding here. It is our conclusion that Jason Hou’s story is unsubstantiated and merely fictional.

Our findings (translated from Japanese text)

[E1] Jason Ho’s chip design businesses (1992~2004)

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-166.html

[E2] Socle Technology vs. Mai Logic (2004 ~ 2006)

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-167.html

[E3] Ho&Hsu vs. United States of America (2016~2018)

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-168.html


Spy stories told by Jason Hou and Fukada

[R1] 2021-May Jason’s talk about the spy events (YouTube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COFkRpwu4Xw
(if busy, watch 28:00~30:00)

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-77.html
(transcript of above video 28:00 ~30:00 )

[R2] 2017 Fukada’s letter about Jason’s spy events (was sent to the Court)

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-16.html

[R3] 2006 Jason Hou interviewed by a Taiwanese Magazine

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-128.html


(*) About Fukada Moe

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-170.html

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Re: Jason Hou, then CEO of Mai Logic, described how his company’s Articia chip technology was stolen
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To be fair using a PowerPC chip in a jet fighter almost certainly turns out to be a technological dead end so China will have regretted that decision!

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Hello Mobileconnect,

We could not find any articles reporting what type of bridge chips are used in the F-35's computer system. However, I am certain that PowerPC and FPGAs are used. You made a good point. I wonder what kind of CPUs are used in the J-31.


Power PC in F-35

https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2003-05-19-First-Lockheed-Martin-F-35-Joint-Strike-Fighter-Vehicle-Management-Computer-Delivered

https://www.aviationtoday.com/2003/09/01/jsf-integrated-avionics-par-excellence/


FPGA in F-35 (ICP system)

http://vipclubmn.org/Articles/JSF_Eagan.pdf


IEEE-1394b network in F-35

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20060009084/downloads/20060009084.pdf


F-35 project report

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/RL30563.pdf


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Re: Jason Hou, then CEO of Mai Logic, described how his company’s Articia chip technology was stolen
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@RTK0103

Difficult for the average reader to digest. If this can help in any way the following link might lead to further comments.

It's German, but this story won't get comments in its english section, so I chose the German link for this one since it does have a comment section:

Amiganews.de coverage

Thank you for what was obviously a monumental effort.

Edit added: comment #6 (from link above) has a link to archive.org that actually works, in case you wish to compare what someone else was stating at the time. You may have already seen comments from the same author on AW.

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Thank you for the link.
This line is very interesting :)

March 2003 -- After two weeks we call IBM. IBM reviews the situation and decides to help us. IBM forces Mai to ship the chips. ...

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This was obviously before IBM hurredly removed any connection to their "partner" on their website.
Kinda begs the question: "what did they know and when did they know it?"

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Re: Jason Hou, then CEO of Mai Logic, described how his company’s Articia chip technology was stolen
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Is that a termination of the partnership between MAI and IBM?
If so, when did it happen?

At the end of 2003, both were still doing cooperative press releases(of Articia I and Elastic IO)/
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I have a pretty firm memory that I posted about the listing of the partnership no longer being on the page.
Depending on the date it could be that business between them was complete and nothing more.

It's a lot of work to search here these days but I'll see what I can find.

Edit: seems that one was easy. heh.

July 20, 2008
"last I checked" would be difficult to say, but certainly not that long before I made the post.

Decent info in that thread overall.

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Oh yes, this is the most useful AW thread we found during our research :)
So IBM had Mai Logic on their partner list until at least July 2008!
Because Mai Logic sued Socle (2004 Dec.), it was revealed that legal authorities in Taiwan were seeking to arrest Jason Hou and IBM employees ended up doing depositions in 2006 Nov. If I were in charge of the listing, I would be removing it asap.

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Have you checked wayback. Surely IBM pages would be archived often enough that you could show a date where it was and a date where it was not?

If that would work then at least through my posted date you have a point to work from.

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I find conversation a bit odd, was there any options besides Mai Logic, Pegasus II from Genesi used marvel chipset. Because they also had April fix for Mai Logic chipset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasos

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Quote:
I am certain that PowerPC and FPGAs are used. You made a good point. I wonder what kind of CPUs are used in the J-31.


If you remember, how Huawei was blocked by USA, because tough Chinas was spying on USA, on of the worries was that China can put something into silicon they did not order, a back door. In particular in the Huawei network routers. I similar policies apply to other things.

For US government picking CPU with low watt, high tolerance to signal notice, where product is produced, you won’t want reliant on your worst enemy for parts, and reliability is more important, what is not important is price per clock or number of cores, and it might not even even need to be the fastet chip.

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Hi NutsAboutAmiga

Yes. Mai Logic chipset Articia S had problems, hence April 1/2 fixes were needed. But eventually they (bPlan) gave up and went for Marvell's Discovery2 chipset. These are good readings about the Articia S (on Pegasos 1) problem.

https://amigaplanet.wordpress.com/2013/09/28/pegasos-non-april-does-it-run-or-not/

http://www.charra.fr/thepegasosbook/en/V2.3_en/ThePegasosBook_V2.3_en_T2_Pegasos.pdf

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Sorry I did not not write clear.

PowerPC was used in F-35. (By the way, DoD MIL SPEC PowerPC and chipset were available at that time. And I am not sure is what kind of CPU were used by China. ) Mai Logic tried to deliver Articia P chipset (next gen. Articia S) to Kaiser electronics in 2003. Kaiser was developing a panoramic cockpit display control system for Lockheed Martin (who is the F-35 main contractor). But Mai logic could not make functional Articia P and it eventually sold the technology to a Chinese company in 2004.

Almost 20 years after this event, Jason Hou is saying the delivery of the Articia P chip to Kaiser was refused by the chip design contractor and the technology was stolen and sent to China.

It seems to me Jason is trying to hide his mistakes and crimes using a conspiracy theory.

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From https://www.militaryaerospace.com/computers/article/16726251/colorado-engineering-to-develop-gpgpubased-embedded-computing-for-f35-radar-signal-processing

Colorado Engineering to develop GPGPU-based embedded computing for F-35 radar signal processing.

Colorado Research has expertise in complex circuit board design for military, industrial, and commercial applications, as well as in the OpenCL software language often used to program GPGPU chips.

Among its partners, Colorado Research counts GPGPU designers NVIDIA and AMD, as well as high-performance general-purpose processor manufacturers Intel Corp. and Texas Instruments.

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For F-35's Technology Refresh 3 (TR3) modernisation program being led by Lockheed Martin, https://softei.com/secure-virtualised-gpu-runs-multiple-apps-for-f-35-cockpit-display/


The PCD-EU is the processing unit for the panoramic head-down display in the jet’s cockpit. It features a special temperature screened version of a discrete AMD GPU that is available from CoreAVI.

The system deploys multiple independent applications in secure partitions running on multiple separate displays using ArgusCore SC graphics drivers. Lynx MOSA.ic securely partitions the AMD device and HyperCore manages the use of the GPU across partitions, so that one GPU, with the EGL_EXT_Compositor, can support multiple displays with mixed design assurance level (DAL) requirements. The whole system will be certified to airworthiness

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Hi NutsAboutAmiga

Yes. Mai Logic chipset Articia S had problems, hence April 1/2 fixes were needed. But eventually they (bPlan) gave up and went for Marvell's Discovery2 chipset. These are good readings about the Articia S (on Pegasos 1) problem.

https://amigaplanet.wordpress.com/2013/09/28/pegasos-non-april-does-it-run-or-not/

http://www.charra.fr/thepegasosbook/en/V2.3_en/ThePegasosBook_V2.3_en_T2_Pegasos.pdf


I remember the entire Mai Articia debacle as "Incompetent Northbridge".

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Hello Hammer,

Mai Logic made 3 bridge chips (Aureate, Articia S, and Articia P) and all of them were “Incompetent”. LOL


Kaiser Electronics was the original contractor (2001) of the F-35 PCD system but it lost the business to L3 Display in 2006.
This report from Lockheed Martin (LM), explains why it lost.

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/eo/documents/webt/F-35_Mission_Systems_Design_Development_and_Verification.pdf

The Kaiser’s system delivered to LM does not have Mai Logic product since Articia P did not work as expected.
I am keep searching the information of chipset used in the Kaiser’s final system, but so far it is not found.
By the way this is Jason’s petition (from Facebook). Do not know to whom it was sent.


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2024-Jason-Maiko Petition -received 11-23-2017
Dear Sir / Madam,
My name in Jason Ho and I am a former executive of Mai Logic, a prior sub-contractor of Kaiser Electronics, a company that Lockheed Martin had a contract with in 2003 for providing foundational technology contributions for the F-35 cockpit wireless communication.
I am writing you to inform the government that my colleague Jessie Hsu and I have continuously been summoned for audit by the Internal Revenue Service with information requests that include full disclosure of our contracts and agreements, including the work we have completed for Kaiser / Lockheed Martin. This information request is highly suspect as Mai Logic has been bankrupt since 2005 and the contracts and agreements with Kaiser Electronics / Lockheed Martin are protected under NDA. Though we have continuously informed the IRS that these contacts and associated technologies are protected under NDA with our customers, the IRS continues to demand that we release all the information to them - including detailed technical information - as part of the audit under the guise of determining the "value" of our work to be used for some criteria for their audit.
This stared when Mai Logic Inc., a company providing semiconductor devices for the flight controller and display systems for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, was targeted in early 2000 by nefarious entities such as Taiwan's Windbond Technology in an attempt to pilfer valuable F-35 Joint Strike Fighter technology. The Deputy Director of Taiwan’s Investigation Bureau, Miss Wu Li-Zhen, informed Mai Logic in 2001 of Windbond’s attack seeking JSF program information. Kaiser Electronics wrote a letter to Taiwan’s President asking for intervention and an investigation. The Taiwanese Congress issued a resolution condemning some corrupt Taiwanese government officials for targeting Mai Logic with false criminal accusations claimed by Windbond in same year. Unfortunately, Windbond successfully obtained some of Mai Logic's designs such as the IBM Power PC 750 design via computer hacking and then sold the technology to Huawei in China. Part of Mai Logic's JSF design was posted on Russian web sites in 2005 after another break in. Mai Logic immediately reported this crime to the local police and the FBI. Because of these attacks, the FBI placed Mai Logic's president, Jason Ho, into the FBI victim assistance program in September 2005.
Mai Logic ceased operations soon after this crime happened and Jason Ho moved his business to Japan in 2007 to escape threats made by Huawei and Windbond. A group in Japan formed Revatron in 2012 to help Jason Ho promote his technology. Revatron was hired by the Japanese National Lab for developing most advanced total 3D solution in the same year and Revatron is working with JAXA for most advanced space vehicle system. Unfortunately both Huawei and Windbond started to attack Revatron and Jason Ho again. Japan government officials informed the Japanese National Research Center and Revatron they were being spied on by Huawei. It was first time Huawei was caught in espionage activities and this event was widely covered by Japanese media for 6 months in 2014. Unfortunately, industrial espionage was not a crime in Japan in 2014.
China demonstrated an F-35 clone in 2014 with identical dimensions, shape and size to the F-35, proving somehow China successfully obtained the design of JSF flight control system. China openly admitted through a series of PLA forums that they were missing critical low-latency fly-by-wire technology for their flight control system for vertical takeoffs and 3D technology for the display system. Revatron was contacted by agents of China connected to Japan Communist Party asking for this technology from Jason Ho otherwise there would be severe consequences. Due to this, Revatron filed a complaint to Japan’s foreign police department.
These consequences include rouge IRS agents colluding with China to obtain JSF top-secret information by abusing their IRS power. These are IRS agents have spent $10M+ of US taxpayers money for countless illegitimate summons over a 3-year span targeting. These summons are auditing defense contractors bankrupted more than 12 years ago with zero tax liabilities and using that as a ruse to now target corporate officers claiming they are personally liable. The IRS started their most intense tax audit in August 2014 with the main purpose to obtain this secret Joint Strike Fighter information. The IRS interviewed Jason Ho as Mai Logic’s last President in March 2015 and the lead IRS revenue agent Jowei Campbell clearly wrote in her audit book there is no tax that could be collected in this audit. However the IRS still continues their audit and is openly asking for details of F-35 information and all information on the Japan officials who informed Revatron of the espionage activities. The IRS stated if Jason Ho refuses to answer questions their audit will be painful and never stop. After Jason's refusal to answer questions, the IRS extended its audit to Revatron, a fully Japanese company. Until this moment IRS still generates many summons to Mai Logic demanding all the information Mai Logic ever had, including the names, ranks, titles, reporting lines, and functions Jason Ho has ever worked with in the past.
We do not want to release this information to the IRS due to the confidential nature of this. We also have suspicions that this information request is actually a ruse from a front for a foreign adversary who has already pilfered sensitive F-35 technology and need additional detail to complete their own implementation of this in their military aircraft. We have exhausted all options on our side to deny the IRS requests and have no alternative but to reach out to Lockheed Martin to request Lockheed's assistance to help us block this unfounded request. Without your assistance against the numerous summons and threats from the IRS, we will be left with no choice but to provide the IRS auditors this sensitive information.
Respectfully,
Jason Ho

——

source of the above writing.
https://www.facebook.com/moe.fukada.journalist/posts/1793496447336315

A letter sent to the court written by Maiko Asada (aka Moe Fukada).

https://fc2blog4gsa991s.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-16.html



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