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Trekiej 
Which CPU?
Posted on 7-Aug-2022 23:36:45
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Alright, you know the deal.

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Re: Which CPU?
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PowerPC of course

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Re: Which CPU?
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Re: Which CPU?
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Trekiej asked:
Which CPU?

For what?

Q: For a backward compatible + 68k renaissance hobby board?
A: 2023-2025 a new 68k ASIC,
A: 2026-2030 a new 68k SoC

Q: For new hardware to carry over from the long dead PPC architecture, that'll run some sort of NG OS + backward compatible with 68k library?
A: 2023-2026 x86-64 running a new 68k JIT kernel a la Amithlon,
A: 2027-2032 expanded JIT kernel to interpret PPC + also ported to ARM hardware

Q: For a completely new set of products that severs ties with backward compatibility and is a modern Amiga-inspired platform with contemporary features capable of attracting new users and sustaining a growing user base?
A: 2023-2027 predominantly x86-64 + FPGA,
A: 2028-2032 - 50/50 x86-64/ARM + FPGA

I don't want to speculate beyond 10 years.

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Re: Which CPU?
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@agami

Thanks.
Is there something that could be added to a cpu to improve emulation,
a general re-usable component to make emulation of other cpu's more practical?

Concerning emulation, I wish that today's emulators had access to all the items a big box amiga had.

edit:
I would conclude that designers do not design for yesterday.

If I were looking for a full Amiga experience.

eol

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68K @ 1TREVORHERTZ

It cons you into thinking it executed your instructions, but you were not there to fetch the output.



























/mega!

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@Trekiej

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Alright, you know the deal.

Mine. Of course.

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Karlos 
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Amiga says:

Workbench:C/CPU

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Trekiej 
Re: Which CPU?
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@Karlos

There is an expert answer.

@ /mega!

If /Mega! > Zorram Then Print "Mega!"



I think that it is a great thing that an Amiga can be put on a single chip, regardless if it is an asic or fpga.

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Re: Which CPU?
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Which CPU……??

68080 is already available.

http://www.apollo-computer.com/v4standalone.php

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Concerning emulation, I wish that today's emulators had access to all the items a big box amiga had


Can you be more specific? WinUAE emulates a significant corpus of expansion hardware already.

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Mine would be the T-800's Neural Net Processor CPU, or "learning computer". Put it in a Robot Wars robot and crush Sir Kill-a-lot!!! Ha ha ha!



It makes a cool USB stick!

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Meh, the Tensor in the wife's phone is as much AI as I need on a chip...

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8051

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@Karlos

Having all the ports that can be found on the back of any Amiga would be great.

I do not mind creating ADF files, but not having some standard access to a fdd on a pc seemed to take away the Amiga experience.

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I thnk one of those cpu's have Basic built-in.

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Meh, the Tensor in the wife's phone is as much AI as I need on a chip...


I swear, friend Karlos,
I read "the Trevor".

That would have been really awkward.

Truly,
Mega RJ Mical

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This is one of those Mr Robot perception hack things where you see and hear "Trevor" whenever the word Tensor or anything within a certain Levenstein distance of it comes up, right?

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POqV7gjuCiY&t=41

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I quite like the CELL.

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