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QBit 
What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 28-Sep-2022 17:31:07
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State of the Art Single Board Computers
I must throw away all my Computers and Consoles. They are Energy hungry Dinosaurs!

Shut down and offline!

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Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 30-Sep-2022 2:19:00
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@QBit,

No, I like my newish AMD2700X for doing things I can't do on Amiga. When Amiga can replace it, I will dump it. I live in 2 worlds.

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agami 
Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 30-Sep-2022 3:39:06
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@QBit

What a (near) future Amiga (hardware & OS) MUST be like?

The hardware must have:
- 4 different processors (simultaneously):
--- M68k (ASIC of FPGA) for backward compatibility
--- Power 9 8-core CPU for high performance AmigaOS 4.1.4.2.0.8 Super Final Edition
--- ARM64 8-core CPU (2 performance cores + 6 efficiency cores) for AROS ARM development and Linux apps
--- RISC-V Xena v2 core (can't wait to see what devs do with it)
- Up to 8x DDR5 DIMM slots + Special SO-DIMM slots for dedicated Video RAM modules
- 6 x PCIe v4 NVMe slots + onboard (rear accessible) CF-card slot for retro OS images
- Special Xavier socket for upgradable AGA programmable chip (can be upgraded to AA+ and AAA)
- 3x PCIe 4 x16 slots supporting multiple GPUs (can dedicate different GPUs to different CPUs)
- 8x USB 4 ports + 2x USB 2 ports
- Onboard 24bit 7.1.2 channel Dolby ATMOS sound + special Paula emulation mode to authentically support old Amiga 68k audio apps
- Dedicated DSP custom chip that can either upscale old content designed for 4:3 CRT to flicker-free 4k 16:9 HDR 10, or downscale all modern 4k 16:9 HDR 10 to 4:3 ratio with CRT scanlines
- 4x DB9 joystick ports
- 2x Ethernet ports (1x GbE + 1x 10GbE) NOTE: AmigaOS 4 SFE requires a separate PCIe based Ethernet card
- Wi-Fi 6 + Bluetooth 5.2
- Form factors as EATX, ATX, micro ATX, mini ITX boards, and laptop

The OS must have
- Amiga OO architecture and folder structure with assigns
- OmegaFS file system with the best of ZFS and FFS (support for up to 256 exabytes)
- Multi-user environment
- Detailed configurability of every single aspect (OS configuration is the killer app, as in it can literally kill thousands of hours of time)
- Modern secure multi-threaded 64-bit architecture that seamlessly and concurrently supports applications written for Amiga OS 1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x, MorphOS, AROS 68k, AROS PPC, AROS ARM, LInux
- Built-in A.I. assistant that answers questions, plus can intelligently decompile and disassemble old apps and attempt to recompile them to better run on Power 9 or ARM CPUs, or both (includes Xarexx port)
- Support for independent draggable screens supporting different resolutions and colour-depth, for nostalgia purposes
- Built in CD32/CDTV emulation mode
- Built in PPC console emulation mode (Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Nintendo Cube/Wii(U))
- Built in modern computer user emulation mode (Windows 11, macOS)
- Multi-monitor support (up to 64)
- Full 3D AR/VR support for gesture manipulation of virtual screens hovering in mid-air
- Built in IPv4/IPv6 TCP stack
- Support for multi-touch screens and touchpads, and VR haptic gloves
- Full suite of GURU error messages
- Multiple app launching options (start bar, dock, launchpad, sidebar, right click menu, Xarexx, A.I. assistant, CLI, inserting a game CD, plugging in USB device, facial expression via web-cam)

A CAGA seal of approval.
Oh, and all of this for under $700 USD

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redfox 
Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 30-Sep-2022 6:15:47
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@agami

Well done. I think you got all the required specs.



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evilFrog 
Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 30-Sep-2022 11:23:41
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@agami

I think I'll wait for the $900 version with mil-spec chips and a 5.25" floppy drive.

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agami 
Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 1-Oct-2022 2:32:18
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@evilFrog

Quote:

evilFrog wrote:
@agami

I think I'll wait for the $900 version with mil-spec chips and a 5.25" floppy drive.

I hear ya.
That one will be released only 2 weeks after, and the cool thing about that particular 5.25" floppy drive, is that it's a ultra-hybrid magneto-optical drive, compatible with all 12cm and 8cm read and re-writable optical media (4k Blu-Ray, regular Blu-Ray, DVD, SACD, CD), magneto-optical disks (130mm and 90mm), Mini-Disc (up to Hi-MD), UMD, Zip Disks, 5.25" floppies (up to DD), and 3.5" floppies (up to LS-240).

Worth the wait.

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Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 1-Oct-2022 12:01:50
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From: Australia

@QBit

It needs to be:
- useful out of the box.
- extremely configurable as standard; even of its own configurability.
- widely useable.
- have reference hardware that is the most efficient implementation of its functionality.
- remove the limitations of current input models.
- revise & reimplement the datatypes models for broader and more efficient useability.
- change system models to allow more useable user operation.
- use a much improved and flexible menuing model.
- provide various examples of alternate base implementations.
- provide easier but secure interoperability between people &/or entities &/or information.
- generalise existing models even further to make things more seamless.
- remove the need for the endless information model workarounds that have preliferated.
- but continue to work with the endless information models that have arisen.
etc.

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amigagr 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2022 15:20:07
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add a backplate too please!

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BigD 
Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 1-Oct-2022 15:47:35
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@Thread

Yes, the BoXer would have been nice, yes a ABox would have been great and yes an A1222 Plus would have been awesome. However, what was delivered was THEA500 Mini and it's fun! What more could I want? Commodore/Escom/Gateway are all dead but long live the Amiga in whatever fun form it takes!

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OldFart 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2022 18:53:03
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@agami

And please, PLEASE add to the list proper connectivity with interfaces like ST506 and maybe ST412? Fingers crossed. And also RS323 and proper Centronics ports and connectors for parallel printer support and for SCSI (and maybe SASI?). I'll contact my friends at Philips for a CRT that handles aspect ratios of 21:9.

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agami 
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Posted on 2-Oct-2022 1:10:49
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@gonegahgah

Quote:

gonegahgah wrote:
@QBit

It needs to be:
- useful out of the box.
- extremely configurable as standard; even of its own configurability.
- widely useable.
- have reference hardware that is the most efficient implementation of its functionality.
- remove the limitations of current input models.
- revise & reimplement the datatypes models for broader and more efficient useability.
- change system models to allow more useable user operation.
- use a much improved and flexible menuing model.
- provide various examples of alternate base implementations.
- provide easier but secure interoperability between people &/or entities &/or information.
- generalise existing models even further to make things more seamless.
- remove the need for the endless information model workarounds that have preliferated.
- but continue to work with the endless information models that have arisen.
etc.

I concur.

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Karlos 
Re: What a future Amiga must at least be!
Posted on 2-Oct-2022 13:49:12
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@agami

Quote:
A CAGA seal of approval


Oh, come on. Be reasonable...

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