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How much this 2d cartoon animation close to 8bit Pixel Art ?
Posted on 29-Oct-2023 16:39:35
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Hi,
I made this video, and i want to know, is this 2d Cartoon Animation video is pretty much close to Low-res 8bit Pixel Art ? is it looks perfect ?

2D Cartoon Anime in 8Bit Pixel Art

Your feedbacks will be appreciated...!

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Re: How much this 2d cartoon animation close to 8bit Pixel Art ?
Posted on 30-Oct-2023 11:25:22
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Honestly, its very, very far off.
Eight bit pixel art is a skill where a person uses a limited palette and limited colors onscreen to best effect.
This video simply looks like a video that has been converted down to 8bit color depth from a full 24/32/40/48 bit palette and has had some unnecessary (and not 8bit pixel art looking AT ALL) artificially placed artifacts.

There's no cheating to doing 8bit pixel art. No filters, no downscaling methods or software, etc.
If you want something that looks like 8bit pixel art you need to do 8bit pixel art. Anything else just looks like a cheap and nasty attempt at creating an 8bit pixel art look.

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Posted on 30-Oct-2023 17:39:19
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@fishy_fis

Thanks for your feedback, actually i want to know it is how much far away ? Here you can compare it with Original Trailer , i know there is some visible dither on dark area's but these are also not jet black in original video so that's why it show dither there, and i can remove that dither from dark areas by reducing the colors but i want aleast 8bit 256 colors. and also video is low resolution with Jaggies in limited under 256 colors. Anyway Can you take 1 frame from the above video and make a sample of your real hand made 8bit pixel art so i will compare it with my video. and one more thing i am not using the filter.

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Are you Hayao Miyazaki? I think not.

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Posted on 30-Oct-2023 19:10:03
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Lol, ヅ , i didn't do the animation/audio or write the cartoon script. i just try to convert this cartoon animation into 8bit format with low colors and low resolution with dithering.

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vintagewatches.pk wrote:

i just try to convert this cartoon animation into 8bit format with low colors and low resolution with dithering


8 Bit RGB over Palette:
3 bits green
3 bit red
2 bit blue

Dithering is possible but If you prefer an carton like look, I would reduce the colors even more and use a filter generating black outlines ...

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Posted on 2-Nov-2023 5:55:26
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Yea i can easily reduce colors to 16 colors, but i like 256 or 64 or 128 colors and Yea jagged lines are not jet black and sharp because of Anti-aliasing, Actually in above Cartoon Video the dither especially is more visible in dark areas, These areas are not jet black so that's why dither is visible there due to represent the dark shades colors like brown or grey. So whenever even a little shade of color comes in the form of gradient in 24bit true color video then my software tries to represent that 24bit video colors gradient in 8bit with the help of 'dithering gradient' due to limit of 256 colors, but it can be fixed by reducing colors to 32 or 16 but then it will loose the many other details in the video and can't represent objects correctly especially in dark scenes due to very very limited number of colors. in other words you order to computer ignore those shades and make it black and don't represend those shades with dither. Original video is running at the corner in a small window. Anyway you can also compare the original video from here Original Trailer.

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I think there's something wrong in your dithering routine, because it uses so far-off colors when there would be closer colors to use too. For example, those very bright pixels over dark areas just don't look good, and makes it look like 8 colors image even though it's using 256 colors.

I made some quick tests by converting the original frames to lower resolution (3x3 pixels which it seemed to be in your video) in 32 and 256 colors, with and without dithering. I just did the color reducing/dithering in RNOEffects ;)

First example:
Image from your video
Image from the original video
256 colors without dithering
256 colors with dithering
32 colors without dithering
32 colors with dithering

Second example:
Image from your video
Image from the original video
256 colors without dithering
256 colors with dithering
32 colors without dithering
32 colors with dithering

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Posted on 3-Nov-2023 11:15:13
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Thanks for the examples., regarding your software, it is much better but it do image by image and it takes too much time to convert a 2 minutes 24fps video it nearly 3k frames. But in other hand my software play any video live with fastest renderding in this effect no needs to wait for rendering, i just add mp4 video file to software and execute it and done. even i can play full length 2 hours video live in this effect without any wait. Anyway i will try to improve it becuase it is in early stages. one more thing, i can also overcome dither effect by reducing the pixel size and increase the resolution.

Now here i use another technique here with floyd steinberg dither which takes me little bit to render the whole video. but results are nearly yours one.

So here are the results:

KiKi Cartoon 32
KiKi Cartoon 256

Also see this i added multiple effects to video
Also read the video description.

And is this video i made long time ago similar to c64 colors:
Video

And here is in 2 colors Green Screen Matrix Effect:
ASCII Matrix

And here i converted video into 100% Pure Vector Art with source (vector of each frame):
Vector Video

Hope you will like my work.

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Yeah, looks better now.

BTW. about my program, it is possible to extract frames from a video, for example, with ffmpeg, and then RNOEffects is able to batch process all those frames in one go, and then convert it back to a video with ffmpeg or some other program.

But of course it's more convenient to do it in one dedicated program.

Edit: Actually, maybe I'll add a video saving option for batch converted images in RNOEffects in the next version. It already can output batch conversion as a PDF, so why not dump them as video frames too. Thanks for the idea ;)

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Posted on 5-Nov-2023 12:42:22
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Pro: Yea in my 2nd technic KiKi Cartoon 256 it looks perfect dithering especially on dark areas
Con: But it fades all low resolution jagged lines like sharp Anti-aliasings. because i reduce the actual video resolution to show low resolution jagged lines.

Pro: But in otherhand in my first video 2D Cartoon Anime in 8Bit Pixel Art it looks very sharp result and low resolution jagged lines are visible very much. it is because my software render actual video in low resolution but display show video in 720p hd.

Pro: Also as i told you i can watch any number of full lenght videos live all day without any wait in this effect with my software.

So my software wins and i like videos in that effect very much, even it has slightly high dither but i compromise because it looks very sharp low resolution result in HD format.

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