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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 5-Nov-2024 11:32:39
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@BigD I am not the one that regularly posts comments disparaging other peoples preferences or choices. I have two Amiga machines, an original Commodore Amiga 1200, equipped with extra RAM in the trapdoor, and a SAM 440 that I bought "because I could".
The only "major" changes that I have made to my 1200 were by changing the original IBM 80Mb hard drive for a 4Gb flash and modifying an external floppy disk unit to hold a Gotek floppy emulator and cloning my surviving floppies to a USB stick.
My son has an Amiga500 mini so that he can still play certain games, but while he used to post on this site the hate spewed by various people against the "heretics" who like the "wrong" platform drove him away. Note it didn't drive him away from the Amiga, just the nasty hateful individuals who like to parade their perceived perfection and disparage those who fail to kiss their (expletive deleted)s.
I don't care which platform you choose to use, Aros, Morphos, 68K, WinUAE, A500 mini, Sam440/460, or any of Trevor's offerings. I am happy for you to play with whatever toy makes you happy, but do not try to tell me I am playing with the wrong toys in the way you have previouly paraded your rampant homophobia by telling the few gay Amiga users that they are playing with the wrong toys when they have their Amiga switched off.
Your "free speech" meets a boundary when it interferes with other people's freedoms, or do your "principles" not recognise that other people also have rights?

Incidentally, The Labour party won the election and we now have an Atheist as Prime Minister, while the combined share of the vote that went to the right-wing parties (Tory and DeformUK) only came to 38% of the votes cast. You lost, deal with it.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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Double post for some reason.
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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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the combined share of the vote that went to the right-wing parties (Tory and DeformUK) only came to 38% of the votes cast.


And the Labour Party won 33.7 percent of the vote in the UK general election of 2024! It doesn't make sense for a closet communist to be Prime Minister of a free democratic country built on Biblical morals. I pray that the British public come to their senses and reject the Uni-party of both shades of pointless and save this country from the rampant globalists who would like to see us governed by the so called experts at the UN, IMF and the ECHR!

So you've used the "B" word and now you used the "H" word. To clarify, I am not scared of what people choose to do in their bedrooms! I do have a problem with them being 'proud' of what they do in their bedrooms and crowing about it even in front of children!

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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Double post for some reason.
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This is all way off topic! The point was that PPC development has hit the buffers, that was all! People are still free to use their old Mac, Game Cubes, PS3s and even AmigaOnes if they so wish it's just there are unlikley to be many more new machines of this ilk released unless you would like one of these:

https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@BigD Just because the democratically elected Prime Minister of the UK is politically to the left of the Austrian painter with the Charle Chaplin moustache, it doesn't mean he is Joseph Stalin in drag. Like all neofascists, you consider anything different to be heresy and that heresy warrants a painful and protracted extermination. Bear in mind that among your "biblical morals" you will find support for slavery, subjugation of women, and execution of women who were not virgins as well as gays.
Your use of the term "uniparty" to lump anybody who isn't one of Nigel's cronies is a telling indictment of you. Do you know how many supporters of Nigel over the years have been neofascist thugs, or is that "a feature not a bug" in your eyes? Are you a member of the Stephen Yaxley-Lennon fanclub, cheering on a "brexiteer" who uses his Irish passport to evade arrest for contempt of court by going to Europe.

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I am not scared of what people choose to do in their bedrooms!
and yet ypu opened a thread here a few years back campaigning against gay marriage. I am not a Christ-stain but I d not try to prevent church weddings, or demand that the Jehovah's Witlesses be banned from distributing their magazines outside our local supermarket, even in front of our children.

As I have said, I couldn't give a flying shi'ite what your preferred platform is, but your habit of attacking anybody that fails to kowtow to your preferences is part of the reason my son abandoned posting on Amigaworld's site. If he were to decide t try AROS or Morphos and ask for advice all he would get is bucket loads of hate from people like you demanding loyalty to your preferred platform (whatever that may be)
I get it, you hate people holding different beliefs than your own, regardless of whether that is on matters of religion, politics, or even what kind of computer game platform to use, but that is one of the things about freedom, other people are allowed to have it, it isn't limited to you alone.
As for your drivel about there being no further develpment of various platforms, so what. If you only want to use the most developed platform dump all of the Amiga variants and buy a Microsoft Surface Pro with Windoze11 pre-installed and let "Copilot" take control of what you do on your computer.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 5-Nov-2024 13:42:37
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@Nimrod

In all honesty your son would do best to post the Amiga groups of Discord if he wants help with Amigas. Warning: I use them too!

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and yet ypu opened a thread here a few years back campaigning against gay marriage


Again, your use of language is wrong and misleading. I stood up for marriage which is defined in Matthew 19:4-6:

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He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.â€


What you witnessed was a defense of marriage from me following David Cameron (a true 'Uni-party' Prime Minister if ever I saw one) listening to his liberal wife and coalition 'Tweedledee master in crime' Nick Clegg and deciding to try and redefine it in law. It was against the wishes of his party and the majority of the British public but he tried anyway.

The irony is that he could never redefine a relationship that reflects the relationship Jesus has with His church. It is set in stone and not redefinable! The fact that our country tries to repurpose God's word to suit their own desires and wayward worldviews says a lot about us and our intolerant and hypocritical society. Is not kind or tolerant to spread intolerance of God's word. It is not kindness to lie to people about the true nature of things and if not sensible to vote for a red rosette on a donkey because they are bored of the latest self obsessed, "economic prosperity at all costs" figure head in charge! Generally politicians have forgotten that their job is to protect their citizens and are instead selfish,self-serving or actually serve globalism and cronyism above us!

Again, use what you want but PPC has hit the buffers and no further development is forthcoming! Sorry but it's the truth. I am sorry that you find truth offensive!

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@BigD
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Warning: I use them too!
attacking and bullying anybody who doesn't bow to your diktat.

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I stood up for marriage which is defined in Matthew 19:4-6:
I am not a Christ-stain, along ith the majority of people in the UK, and I use the definition that is provided by current UK law, not some book that is nothing more than an accretion of plagiarised myths and legends cobbled together in a fabric of lies and deceit. We no longer base our laws on the ravings of old men who wear dresses, how would you feel if Sharia law was suddenly imposed? Well that is exactly how I feel about your determination to reintroduce Christaliban rule.

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It was against the wishes of his party and the majority of the British public but he tried anyway.
Wrong, he acted with the support of the majority of the British public, and an even greater proportion of Amigaworld commenters supported the expansion of marriage. Incidentally, while the support may have been close twelve years ago, current opinions have strengthened in support of gay marriage as more people have seen how little damage it has done to the social fabric and how few horses have been frightened look and learn

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It is set in stone and not redefinable!
And yet women are no longer mere adjuncts to their husband, they are even allowed to speak in church (Vicar of Dibley) and horror of horrors, they even have the vote!!!!!. We do not stone a woman to death if she is not a virgin on her wedding night, and slavery is illegal.

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Again, use what you want but PPC has hit the buffers and no further development is forthcoming!
I don't need your permission to do as I please, just as my cousin is free to play his old Sinclair Spectrum games. All iterations of "Amiga" are obslete and not at the forefront of development, that is why the hobby falls under the umbrella of "retro-computing". I have no idea what hardware you use to play your old Amiga games on but I can guarantee that in Amiga mode it is not supported by full time proffessional developers. I cannot use AROS to design electrical control systems, or program a Mitsubishi programmable relay, or a Siemens industrial inverter. I can use my 440 to program ABB robots but only because somebody wrote the necessary software as a hobby project.
The part that you fail to grasp is that the obscurity of the PPC is its greatest delight, I don't want to be using windoze after a day working on a windoze computer. In fact I sometimes even power up my baby Commode64 to play Ghostbusters or Donkey Kong, or just listen to the C64 version of Tubular Bells while watching the patterns displaying in 320x480 resolution on a 49 inch HDTV.
I know you would prefer me to be wearing the knees out of my trousers in my local church during my rest days, but I intend to live my life my way without being bullied by some judgemental narcissist who thinks he has some kind of power over me "because god".
On a slightly separate note the bible says I must lobour for six days, while "lefty" trade unions introduced the idea of a five day working week, and now limit the week to forty hours or even less.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 5-Nov-2024 16:24:48
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@Nimrod

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and yet ypu opened a thread here a few years back campaigning against gay marriage.


I wouldn't put it exactly like that (meant to be a discussion) but you're getting BigD muddled with me. I was coming at the subject from a societal perspective & BigD from a Christian perspective. From memory it got to the point where the discussion was going round in circles so I said goodbye & left others to it (including BigD & yourself).

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 5-Nov-2024 16:39:53
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@Nimrod

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a slightly separate note the bible says I must lobour for six days, while "lefty" trade unions introduced the idea of a five day working week, and now limit the week to forty hours or even less.


Yeah, and the "communist in disguise" would like family farms to sell up to developers or face bankruptcy and have us all working 4 days a week with no personal wealth dependent on the Universal Credit benefit system!

The bottom line is you claim to fight against narcissists and control and yet you support a narcissistic Prime Minister who wants more globalism and more control from unelected political/legal 'experts' and financial overseers like the UN, IMF and the ECHR!

You my friend are a walking contradiction!

BACK ON TOPIC....
You are free to use any obsolete/EOL CPU ISA you wish but bear in mind 68k is experiencing massive software development activity unparalleled during my main Amiga usage 1995-2003.

This is a far more exciting period for 68k development compared to Tiny Troops, Tornado or Foundation in the mid 90s! Slam Tilt was great in 1996 but we had to wait for 1999 for Napalm and now we get a great game almost every year and multiple 68k hardware releases whether they be via FPGA 68080 core machines, MiSTer, ARM emulation machines/accelerators like THEA500 Mini and the PiStorm!

It's never been a better time to be a Classic Amiga lover. Enjoy your robotics on your Sam440, no one is stopping you tinkering. May the solder joints last as long as your joints do!

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 5-Nov-2024 17:10:37
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@Tpod

I find the "lefts" hatred of Christianity hypocritical considering they seem ok with Islam, & promote it. It will be interesting what will happen to this country once islam has become dominant.. I fear we know.

Modern Slavery
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1387910/regions-most-vulnerable-modern-slavery-world/

Approach to Homosexuality
https://www.statista.com/chart/17587/countries-where-homosexuality-can-result-in-the-death-penalty/

I personally don't think Christian values are such a bad thing... They did help build the west, where we're relatively free to express ourselves. despite the best efforts of the political class & their globalist cohorts.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@Deaths_Head

Any fair minded person be they Left or Right Wing, Atheist or Muslim etc. should recognise the overall positive impact of Christianity to Society. It's the Far Left & Right or any kind of extremists mindset in general that cause all sorts of problems, generally people get on fine otherwise.

Nothing more to say on the subject personally, otherwise may end up going round in circles like that other thread!

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 5-Nov-2024 21:07:10
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PowerPC is still better and more alive than 68k.
after so many years 68k still not reach level of cheap pc form win95 era
especially not in 3d

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@Tpod

Can we move UK politics, left vs conservative Christians to a separate thread

@ppcamiga1

See Aminet stats, at any given point of time more software was
developed for AROS m68k and OS3 (m68k) then for MOS and OS4.ž

You have to admit MOS and OS4 users are niche of Amiga wider and retro scene.

What is weirder is that MOS choice of cheap and avail PPC hardware has proven
to be better model, leaving team more time to focus on improved software.

MOS is also PPC, its hardware is PPC, why are you on OS4 then?
PPC Linux is most modern and is PPC, why not being PPC penguin?

Thanks to Hans 3D drivers is only area where OS4 is better then MOS.
'But this drivers dont use full cards potential and had to be paid several
times over and over.

m68k has same good RTG and Warp3D just not Warp3D NOVA, which is slower
then real OpenGL on same cards, just on another OS.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@Deaths_Head

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I find the "lefts" hatred of Christianity hypocritical considering they seem ok with Islam, & promote it. It will be interesting what will happen to this country once islam has become dominant.. I fear we know.


That's quite a twist take I guess... Perhaps quite inline with all the hyperbole I see used by people who call communism anything not resembling far right.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@ppcamiga1

Alive would be a word of the dictionary, indeed

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@pixie

You think its a twist take?. You obviously don't come from northern England. Where the media, police & successive governments silenced child victims who where being trafficked by islamist r@pe gangs. which by the way is still going on to this day in numerous towns & the establishment are still trying to white wash the issue.

The below report is the tip of the iceberg, which has been sanitized...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61868863

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@Deaths_Head

You also have the Catholic r@ape child ring... there's that. It's not some sort of excuse though, but you people like pretending that is something tied to a particular group as in your own group you don't have shit to solve.

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@vox

provide something native 68k 3D as good as R200 or sod off
native 68k is still not as good as cheap pc from win95 era
aros x86 is still not as good as windows
emu68 is still not as good as android

So I still be using nice fast Amiga PowerPC with good enough graphics


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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 8-Nov-2024 9:02:47
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emu68 is still not as good as android


You cannot compare CPU emulator (emu68) with operating system (Android). This is comparing apples with oranges: "AmigaOS is better than VW Golf because Monday".

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So I still be using nice fast Amiga PowerPC with good enough graphics


Now this is perfect. Use your PPC Amiga and be happy with it!

I'm glad I helped.

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
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@ppcamiga1

Warp3D for Hyperion works with RTG up to Parmedia, Voodo and works as OS3 drivers exist.
It was base for OS4 Parmedia and Voodo drivers for OS4

Warp3D is not as good as Nova but Nova isnt full OpenGL either and costs several drivers and extra for W3D compatibility, which is a rip off.

Rip off is that base cards for SAM460 and x1000 arent supported, which should come first.\

Where is OS 4.2 I have prepaid and is promised in my x1000 manual, as soon as it appears in Hype download area and who can refund I for this fraud that destroyed Trevor and Brothers in my eyes, plus not fixing CFE?

emu68 and A600GS ARM optimizations arent UAE but are on way to be new Umilator, which is great

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