@OneTimer1

neither... a copy of a discord message by a team member

@OlafS25

Classy

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AmigaBill on Twitch





Commodore Amiga - Live In-Person Demo & Q&A of the
New A6000 with Guest Manuel Jesus From The Apollo Team!

Some information about the production process and some details you might have missed.


https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2572278281?tt_content=vod&tt_medium=mobile_web_share

Last edited by OneTimer1 on 23-Sep-2025 at 07:33 PM.

@amigang

Looks good!

Price is... well... comparable to other computers in the world of Amiga.

@OlafS25

Are there good tutorials for the A6000?
How to setup the system on the CF?
How to setup the TCP/IP Stack?
Is there a list of compatible joysticks, mice and keyboards?
How to copy games (ADFs)?
Different keyboards (QWERTY / QWERTZ)?
The Apollo Forums shttp://www.apollo-core.com/knwledge.php seems to be broken, is there an alternative?

@OneTimer1

most tutorials you find here:

https://www.youtube.com/@WillemDrijver

Willem has also created apolloboot, what makes installation of different platforms easy

alternative here:
http://apollo-core.com/knwledge.php

also there is a discord channel

list compatible hardware here:
https://www.apollo-computer.com/peripherals.php

@OneTimer1

data exchange workd with microsd card. There is already a slot for that. You copy it on PC and then transfer it to V4

I would sell one of my "LLM-ready" 24GB GPUs to buy powerful a Amiga any day and any night. But not one that is built inside a keyboard without a numpad, neither one without 1Gbps Ethernet and SATA 3 speeds at least.

@toRus

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toRus wrote: I would sell one of my "LLM-ready" 24GB GPUs to buy powerful a Amiga any day and any night. But not one that is built inside a keyboard without a numpad, neither one without 1Gbps Ethernet and SATA 3 speeds at least.

Or without a web browser.

Forget nostalgia bait. A truly 'powerful' Amiga should be more akin to a the Mac mini with Apple silicon. System on Package with UMA, bus architecture storage and expansion ports, Wi-Fi 7 (or 6E), 10GbE, Blueutooth, and digital AV ports.

In 2025, I wouldn't refer to the spec of a Raspberry Pi 5, as 'powerful'.

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@agami

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agami wrote: Forget nostalgia bait. A truly 'powerful' Amiga should be more akin to a the Mac mini with Apple silicon. System on Package with UMA, bus architecture storage and expansion ports, Wi-Fi 7 (or 6E), 10GbE, Blueutooth, and digital AV ports. In 2025, I wouldn't refer to the spec of a Raspberry Pi 5, as 'powerful'.

True but:

- No one outside Apple will get Apple silicone but the Mac mini is a good form factor for a compact desktop system. You can use it with every keyboard you want, with number pad or super compact, wireless or wired in your personal national layouts.

- A RasPi5 would be nice, you can get faster system for more money, but you need an OS that is running native and supporting multiple cores. If you don't have it, you are wasting most of its performance for emulating.

But you know, the crowd is going for nostalgia they prefer a wedge style emulator with keyboard decals over a modern system running multicore Aros or ( Linux with Amigatheme + UAE), you know, playing games twe loved in our childhood is the main reason for buying it or posting in an Amiga forum.

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@All

Hello Apollo Vampires, 

thank you all for your patience. As promised we have finally 
some news about the roadmap for the Apollo A6000:

The introduction of the A6000 with the 40 "First Edition" 
units was a great success and very quickly sold out. 

Amiga40 Event there will be 20 units available for direct sale  at the Apollo stand.

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@OneTimer1

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OneTimer1 wrote: @agami True but: - No one outside Apple will get Apple silicone but the Mac mini is a good form factor for a compact desktop system. ... But you know, the crowd is going for nostalgia they prefer a wedge style emulator with keyboard decals over a modern system running multicore Aros or ( Linux with Amigatheme + UAE), you know, playing games twe loved in our childhood is the main reason for buying it or posting in an Amiga forum.

I wasn't suggesting to use Apple's silicon. I was using Apple's SoP with UMA approach as one to which power players should aspire. AMD's Strix Halo APUs get close, but lack the UMA.

I have nothing against nostalgia focused systems: I have my fair share. And I am actually a fan of the A600 form-factor (get a USB num-pad keyboard if essential), but the proverbial bone I see every Amiga dog chasing is the powerful hardware to play '90s games.

Then there's the "Swiss Army Knife" approach to somehow make it nostalgic and NG at the same time. Visiting the past is fine, but I don't want to live there.
I wouldn't mind the high price-tag as much, if someone could tell me what is the 'killer app' for the hardware. Any 'Amiga-compatible' hardware.

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@agami

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agami wrote: I wasn't suggesting to use Apple's silicon. I was using Apple's SoP with UMA approach as one to which power players should aspire. AMD's Strix Halo APUs get close, but lack the UMA.

OK accepted, but I don't think a UMA yes/no is so much of a deal.


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agami wrote: I have nothing against nostalgia focused systems: I have my fair share. And I am actually a fan of the A600 form-factor

Having the option to purchase the A6000 or a A600GS is great, I'm criticizing the mainly nostalgia driven customers. 68k systems (emulated or not) will not bring us much farther but they are the product most fans are longing for.

SMP, Multi User Management (for Memory Protection), 64Bit, SSD-Suport, WiFi, Blluetooth, USB-3, DVD-Players, HTML5 compatible browsers, Online Games ...

We won't get nothing if we are fixed on AOS3 + 68k.


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agami wrote: Then there's the "Swiss Army Knife" approach to somehow make it nostalgic and NG at the same time. Visiting the past is fine, but I don't want to live there.

Nostalgia could be preserved via a good integrated UAE style emulator.

@OneTimer1

current community is mainly retro driven

@OneTimer1

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OneTimer1 wrote: SMP, Multi User Management (for Memory Protection), 64Bit, SSD-Suport, WiFi, Blluetooth, USB-3, DVD-Players, HTML5 compatible browsers, Online Games ... We won't get nothing if we are fixed on AOS3 + 68k.

100%

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@OneTimer1

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SMP, Multi User Management (for Memory Protection), 64Bit, SSD-Suport, WiFi, Blluetooth, USB-3, DVD-Players, HTML5 compatible browsers, Online Games ... We won't get nothing if we are fixed on AOS3 + 68k.

WIFI was been supported for long time i think its called prism.
I believe there was patch for multi user, or hack for that once.
DVD players i believe is supported in AmigaOS3.2.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: WIFI was been supported for long time i think its called prism.

It's just an example, but AFAIK some encryption on WiFi is needing so much CPU power that it can't be used correctly on smaller systems.

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: I believe there was patch for multi user, or hack for that once.

OMG, I don't know I had to explain it. Multi user is also used for security of data, processes, task and everything.
It's not only about different users having different home directories, user management and security is starting with a strong encapsulation of system privileges from user privileges.

One of the benefits is a system where faulty user programs can't corrupt system programs or system resources. The AmigaOS is as secure as Windows3.11 or Windows95 if hackers where really interested in us, they would be able to take over all AOS3.x AOS4.x MOS or AROS systems with ease, just program some faulty picture datatypes and you could smuggle in worm or trojan horses with ease.

A pacth is not enough, a rewrite of the whole OS would be necessary.

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: DVD players i believe is supported in AmigaOS3.2.

Nice, to have DVD players without the processor power to watch DVDs in real time.

Stronger processors will need something more than just a an emulated 68k or slightly improved 68080, the 68k family is declared dead by its owners.


Yes, I could listed the AOS3.x problems using more details and more precise terms but I hoped some simple short terms would do it without posting all the explanations I had to posted now.


And the world has changes a lot in the last 30 years, in the 90ies an Amiga with iBrowse was still a good solution for internet browsing, today a 68k is not fast enough, 31 bit address-space is to small for modern browser, 4GB maximum file size is a joke and no one outside the Amiga community cares if a JPEG is stored in a Amiga friendly size or if it is stored in full 2K, because your mobile displays it fast enough.

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this is what I always wrote
everything in amiga os below graphics and gui should be cut off
and either reaplaced by unix or rewriten from scratch
it should be done by trolls like szulc, carlos, olaf szonwejs, agami, hammer, abbot etc
they may take micro mical as their mascot also

@ppcamiga1

Maybe you can dictate what they work on when you're paying them a market rate salary. Until then, be quiet.