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@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

Friend MEGA, I see you used the old padding-trick so they can't steal your ZORRAM place this time. You are a little too resourceful for them

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Friend BSZili!
I Find no pleasure in resorting to such cheap tricks.

However, the timezone I am currently exiled to, forces this old hand of mine.

GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN ROAMING THESE BADLANDS


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@outlawal2

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Why the Eff is this conversation here at all? STFU with all this BS and leave this thread for the Hyperion / Amiga legal issues.

Is it not relevant that third parties are currently using AROS to avoid "official" Amiga OS because of the legal problems? And to some, AROS is not enough... at least not yet.

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Is it not relevant that third parties are currently using AROS to avoid "official" Amiga OS because of the legal problems? And to some, AROS is not enough... at least not yet.

I am not so sure legal problems are the primary reason why Hyperion's 68k AmigaOS is avoided. There are other factors.

1. Price
a) Individuals are less willing to pay up for an AmigaOS for EOL emulation and FPGA hardware.
b) Businesses can not afford to pay up where low price products are so important.
c) The owner of the AmigaOS has pushed for free updates and talked about potential open sourcing which favors waiting for a lower price.
d) Considering the price and features, some users choose to use older AmigaOS versions which are usually adequate for the highest demand retro use.
2. Ethics
a) Can Hyperion even be trusted to handle payments after past shenanigans?
b) Why does Hyperion deserve all the profits for a product they do not own and which is developed by outside developers for free?
3. Stability
a) Hyperion could go bankrupt at anytime, potentially before sending AmigaOS purchases.
b) Support from a financially distressed Hyperion is uncertain.
4. Legal problems
a) Businesses may not be able use illegal AmigaOS copies as iComp discovered.

Legal problems are important for businesses which do appear to be avoiding the Hyperion AmigaOS including RGL, AmigaKit, iComp and the AC team but I am not so sure they would buy the Hyperion AmigaOS near the current price without legal problems. I expect Hyperion would need to provide significant discounts to gain interest. Sadly, the 68k AmigaOS is likely Hyperion's most profitable product primarily selling to individuals, at least until lawsuits bankrupt them.

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A bit more detail from Pacer:

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174 motion Dismiss Thu 04/30 12:52 PM MOTION to Dismiss without Prejudice , filed by All Defendants. Noting Date 5/29/2026, (Troy, Gordon) Att: 1 Exhibit 1 - Declaration of Gordon E. R. Troy in Support of Motion, Att: 2 Exhibit 2 - Agreement to Facilitate Settlement-executed-for filing, Att: 3 Exhibit 3 - DocuSign Execution Summary Page, Att: 4 Exhibit 4 - CBE_Public_Search_Hyperion Entertainment, Att: 5 Certificate of Service

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Added: "A dismissal "without prejudice" means a court has closed a case temporarily"

Last edited by number6 on 01-May-2026 at 07:23 PM.

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@matthey

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... Can Hyperion even be trusted ... ... Why does Hyperion deserve all the profits ...

Do third parties really need Hyperion for an OS?

If they want to sell a gaming device they would only need parts of AOS 3.1 (maybe just AOS 1.3) and I don't know if these ROMs belong to Hyperion or Amiga Corporation (Cloanto) .

And if their games are starting with AROS ROMs they don't have to ask or pay anyone else.

@number6

So, does that mean it’s finally over?

Friends of the Amiga,

Hyperion is an embattled "company" comprised of one person, crushed by debt, repeatedly called for dissolution, unable to prove rightful ownerahip of the ip it has stolen and held ransom for decades.

How oh how would anyone with a grain of salt in their head be afraid of auch an empty, frail husk of fraud, debt, and fakery?

You could release AmigaOs 3.1b tomorrow based on leaked source code, have it start with a splash screen that says "Hyperion gargles dromedary semen", commercialize it - and no one at that clown shop would be able to lift a finger about it.

REALISM!!!!!!!!


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MEGA_RJ_MICAL wrote: Friends of the Amiga, Hyperion is an embattled "company" comprised of one person, crushed by debt, repeatedly called for dissolution, unable to prove rightful ownerahip of the ip it has stolen and held ransom for decades. How oh how would anyone with a grain of salt in their head be afraid of auch an empty, frail husk of fraud, debt, and fakery? You could release AmigaOs 3.1b tomorrow based on leaked source code, have it start with a splash screen that says "Hyperion gargles dromedary semen", commercialize it - and no one at that clown shop would be able to lift a finger about it. REALISM!!!!!!!! /mega

That's the mega I know , not the one on matthey thread making coherent arguments regarding what is being said.

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bit more detail from Pacer: Quote: 174 motion Dismiss Thu 04/30 12:52 PM MOTION to Dismiss without Prejudice , filed by All Defendants. Noting Date 5/29/2026, (Troy, Gordon) Att: 1 Exhibit 1 - Declaration of Gordon E. R. Troy in Support of Motion, Att: 2 Exhibit 2 - Agreement to Facilitate Settlement-executed-for filing, Att: 3 Exhibit 3 - DocuSign Execution Summary Page, Att: 4 Exhibit 4 - CBE_Public_Search_Hyperion Entertainment, Att: 5 Certificate of Service

All the above documents are now available for viewing from the Free Law project:

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@number6

Those court documents may be valid, but at the end it we would nee a summary answering some questions:

Who own the rights to distribute the AOS3.1 ROMs?

Who own the rights to use the source?

Are those Hyperion 68k AOS3.1+x ROMs legal?

@OneTimer1

I understand that for most people it's a question of what it all means for all aspects of the IP.

Docs 1-3 are worth a read. The last 3 are just court paperwork.

I'm sure you noticed the time limit?
Although it is possible official statements might be made prior to that date, I would hesitate to state the facts on this long drawn out affair at this time.

I'm sure we'll see some speculation and interpretation of the legal terminology in the meantime.

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Who own the rights to distribute the AOS3.1 ROMs?

Whoever Amiga (ie Cloanto) approves.

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Who own the rights to use the source?

Whoever Amiga (ie Cloanto) approves.

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Are those Hyperion 68k AOS3.1+x ROMs legal?

Only if Amiga (ie Cloanto) approves.

It was determined almost a year ago already that ownership and copyrights trumph dubious old license agreements that may or may not be breached, meaning that anything Hyperion does in regards to Amiga OS, they do at the peril of the owner, which is Amiga (ie Cloanto).

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I'm sure we'll see some speculation and interpretation of the legal terminology in the meantime.

There is not much new to speculate about in the court docs. The old news releases seem to be straightforward with negotiation results that are further along than these docs.

https://xcancel.com/amigacorp Quote:

It is also agreed that Retro Games may release certain Amiga-branded products, and that Hyperion Entertainment may offer "AmigaOS 3.2" digital upgrades under a temporary arrangement intended to preserve continuity for the community while those discussions continue.

https://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2026-03-00108-EN.html Quote:

In a press release distributed via email (see below), Hyperion refers to an “agreement to pause legal proceedings.� The company states that it has reached several “temporary agreements� to pave the way for negotiations toward a final settlement. As a result of these agreements, the digital version of AmigaOS 3.2 is now available again.

The one thing that is new in the recent court docs is the “Reconciliation Deadline� of June 30, 2026. The court cases could be reopened if "an agreement to supersede the 2009 Settlement Agreement" is not reached.

@matthey

I see one obvious omission given the docs did mention the trademarks at uspto.

There was no mention of if/when/how the trademarks filed at EUIPO would be handled.
Given the representative for those remains (as of today) Monard D'Hulst (later rebranded to Monard Law), I'd imagine these present a different issue.

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I see one obvious omission given the docs did mention the trademarks at uspto. There was no mention of if/when/how the trademarks filed at EUIPO would be handled. Given the representative for those remains (as of today) Monard D'Hulst (later rebranded to Monard Law), I'd imagine these present a different issue.

I expect all the trademark issues between Amiga Corp and Hyperion will be worked out easy enough without Ben's absurd claims.

LEGAL PADDING

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