@Ivan

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Ouch! I've been bit by customs charges too. But not quite as bad as that. Are you sure customs will put a charge on it? You wouldn't actually be buying anything this time, just mailing it around.

I don't want to find out by sending it.

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@Rassilon

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this could explain why many of us get horrible glitches in our sound output - from our PCI soundcards doing DMA, when playing back MP3 from HD.

If you're suffering the same sound problems I get, they don't seem to be anything to do with the HD. Playing back MP3s from ram: also glitches. It's screen I/O thats the killer - leave the machine alone and it'll play music till doomsday, but open a few windows and screeeeeeeeeee

Still, I hope these issues are really one and the same because two major PCI/DMA related hardware bugs would be just too much.

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IIRC those with Sound Blaster Live Value (non 5.1, 1st and 2nd generations) will have problems. Those are crappy cards. The Sound Blaster Live 5.1 (3rd gen.) were the cards (fixed) that didn't flood the PCI bus.

If you've got a Sound Blaster Live Value card, try another kind. It's a known troublemaker for weak northbridges.

@Ivan (& others)

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A pci card is a good option but it really dosen't fix the underlying problem of the board being layed out wrong.

And just where did this come from?? The board is NOT wrongly laid out at all.

FWIW the issue appears to be a problem with the VIA not obeying the PCI protocol properly. There are a variety of solutions being tried, and in order to be as open about them as possible I'll post to the A1 owners list at AW sometime tomorrow

Alan

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and in order to be as open about them as possible I'll post to the A1 owners list at AW sometime tomorrow

Will there be some sort of *public* statement aswell?

@cgutjahr
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Will there be some sort of *public* statement aswell?

Alan said the problem is still being worked and the problem only affects existing AmigaOne owners so what are you getting at?

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@Alan

>And just where did this come from?? The borad is NOT wrongly laid out at all.

It came from people talking here and 'elsewhere'. That was the sum of what i could gather at any rate and, i'm glad to hear it's wrong. I really didn't want to ship a board off for days or a week to have a HW fix applied but, you do what you have to. Thanks Alan.

Sorry for the guys who just lost on a few ide card sales. Well, not really. ;)

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@cgutjahr

I think the only 'public' statement we need from Eyetech is confirmation that new A1s will not suffer from this problem. After that the issue has no relevance except to owners of existing A1 boards.

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Is the command "setenv ide sii" (well the sii part I mean) going to be supported in the new UBOOT that comes with the OS4 prerelease update?

The next U-Boot update will have support for booting of the si680, yes.

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Then I guess its just a matter of booting off the OS4 cd, running mediatoolbox, then selecting si680ide.device? Or something like that?

Easier, even. You need to add the si680ide.device to your kicklayout then switch off the machine.

You unplug your drives from the mainboard, plug them in the si680, switch on the machine. That's it.

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And just where did this come from?? The board is NOT wrongly laid out at all.

Stéphane Guillard on ANN.lu saying/explaining this:

No, the problem is the wiring to the VIA controller on the motherboard. We already tried the external ethernet card with no success. We have been able to patch XE rev 1 boards to get working VIA DMA, but I am still waiting for patch instructions for my rev 2 board before I can verify that the lockup problem is gone on that board too.

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No, a simple error in the design that lead to bus collisions between the ethernet chip and the via chip

?

@DrBombcrater

And we've been living with the current state of affairs long enough that it shouldn't be THAT much of a problem, really. That's my stance, anyway. I don't care whether the onboard IDE will ever work perfectly, just as long as I can use the machine.

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@olegil

It's a VIA 686 so it's never going to work perfectly and I think very few of us ever expected that, but a patch to fix this problem would be nice. Buying a Sil680 board and whacking it in is not a big deal, however I'd rather use the PCI slot for something else and kludge the on-board IDE controller to work correctly if that's possible.

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The new boards are reported to not have this problem. That being the case, only current A1 owners have a problem. As such, we probably won't hear much about it as it's not our problem. Though some A1 owners will probably mention what the solution is.

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@Argo

I'm glad they have the VIA problem foremost on their minds though. It's not really a minor issue imho. I liken it to a faulty drive. At least it looks like it will be a SW fix (like we've been hearing all along about VIA) so nothing is unexpected. And Alan is taking it serious which is a good thing all around.

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PowerAmiga:

You don't have to get it from Doug either...

Just go to any PC store near you.

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@rossv

ok i found local shop selling for $42
i need more ide ports any way have 2 80 gig hd,s dvd rom and dvdwriter so out of ide ports

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ok i found local shop selling for $42

Lucky you! I've been unable to find a single si680-based card in Spain, not only in my city, but in the whole country! I keep seeking, tough...

Anyway, $42 in not what I would call 'cheap'... :¬/

See here, a si680-based card for 18$. Even including shipment, it should be cheaper that the one you found.

Saluditos,

Ferrán.

[edit] oooops, I thougt you were from the US, he, he. Of course, you are talking of 42 AUD, aren't you: 42 AUD = 30 USD.... Hmmm, not very expensive but still not cheap IMHO. Something like the one I found is what I would call "cheap".

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There are a variety of solutions being tried, and in order to be as open about them as possible I'll post to the A1 owners list at AW sometime tomorrow

Its here

Cheers

Alan

@ The_Editor

Last weekend my PC choked trying to upgrade to XP SP2. I moved to my A1 full time. I could scoot my chair over and format the PC's HD and load XP again, but I'm having too much fun to interrupt it with such work. I installed ImageFX 4.5 Studio today. I have many images on CD to practice with. Soon (when it's done), I will be able to load them off of the camera's memory card via USB.

Yesterday, I installed AmiTradeCenter and sucessfully retrieved a file from an FTP server. (It was the first time I had ever used an Amiga FTP client.) I still haven't managed to get an IRC client to work. Project for the weekend: 2nd attempt at chat.

As an old guy, who hasn't had an Amiga for 5 years, I'd say it's going pretty well. Software I have ordered has arrived in a timely manner. It works!

Thanks to Intuitionbase.com for steering me towards some applications that run on OS4, and are still for sale. I get to buy and experience for the first time all these programs that most of you have, that I am buying only now.

DoodooHead

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