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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
   posted by Anonymous on 14-May-2005 6:42:40 (6734 reads)
After discussing with the moderating and administration team and reading through user comments about moderation and looking at the list of moderation incidents we have come to the conclusion that a few additions are needed to the terms of service to make things clearer for users and moderating staff alike.

We have also invited wegster to join the staff moderation team to help us maintain a fair and balanced forum.


The new terms of service are posted under Terms and Policy ( see Extras block to the left ) but for your convenience we have posted the ammendments here. You will notice that most of the modification involves advertising as the moderation job over the last six months has been mainly involved in dealing with spammers and users mis-using the forums to lodge classified advertisments.

We will also be modifying the classified advertisment block so that its appearance is more noticeable, less clutterred and more likely to attract the reader. This is to encourage people to actually use that module more.

Addenda:

Moderation

A moderators say is final. When a moderation decision is made the moderator will document why either in private message or at the place where moderation occurred. This in most cases will be accompanied by reference to which Terms Of Service have been broken. Moderators are allowed to use their discretion in interpretation of the Terms Of Service and operate outside of the Terms Of Service where they see a need to intervene. Where you disagree, or feel unfairness is an issue, see Ajudication.

Ajudication

Whilst AmigaWorld.net moderation tries to be fair and balanced sometimes errors can occur. If you disagree with a specific instance where you have been moderated then please put your complaint to the Webmaster, an Administrator or another moderator for consideration and possible action. Arguments about specific moderation incidents are not tolerated on the public forum, use the adjudication process open to you.

Advertising

Paying sponsors and banner advertisers need not read this section.

AmigaWorld.net provides a classified advertising module which is the only place other than paid for advertising banners that adverts are permitted in. This includes promoting goods and services, links to online auctions or advertising in signatures or through avatars. If in doubt, write a classified advertisment.

Press releases are considered under a different category we accept that companies have a need to propogate news and information. If you consider it newsworthy then submit it as a news item. Our moderation team will either publish it or not depending on their judgement as to its newsworthiness and let you know why they did not publish you if they decide against it. If you are directed that an item is not newsworthy, you will be instructed to either place it on the forums or in the classifieds advertisments.

    

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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
Posted on 14-May-2005 17:33:56
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@Wegster:

Lol, i hope he made it to the toilet


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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This is what the XXXX incident was all about, he could probably accept being moderated but the moderator also edited the post in such a manner that it looked like he was saying something else.


That was his claim, and he added words to "his version" of what I posted. I simply posted as I always do with the common
[Edited - Trolling] (look over the history of my editing if you would like) That in no way changed the context of his post other than removing what he said. And in fact, the case in point, I didn't remove the "@username" in the beginning. But he had to add words to what his claim of my moderation was in order to make it sound the way it was portrayed (and wrongly so) on other sites. Not only that, it clearly showed that I was the last person to edit the post, so there was no confusion as to where the bold text [Edited - Trolling] came from. And that's the last I'll have to say on that matter, as it's in the past and has been explained many times. But apparently I've never explained it here. Note: the word "No" was NEVER used in my edited post. That would have changed the context, but the way I originally wrote it, it was very clear who posted what.

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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
Posted on 14-May-2005 20:21:07
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Just read your clauses about moderation and adjudication. Sounds good to me. Keep the bitching private.

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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
Posted on 14-May-2005 21:10:54
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I dunno if its just me but I think a "disputes" forum would be a good idea.. Something similar to the free for all forum so it doesnt show up on the front page but could be used to bring up disputes anyone has against the staff of aw.net.


That would just end up in a pointless exercise of showboating and a slanging match.

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Personally, and Im probably one of few people belive if a moderation occurs in the public domain (i.e a news item or forum topic) then I belive the public also have a right to follow any adjudication going on with regards to that moderation... Kinda like Judge Judy


That isn't going to happen here, I don't agree at all. I think, in general, that Judge Judy and Peoples Court and Trisha and all those things are counterproductive and that people that air their grievances on them have something seriously wrong with them. Given they all seem to tend towards a Jerry Springer style slanging match and a Circus Maximus style crowd baying for blood dishing out judgement I think it kind of backs up my point above about showboating.

No, this is the way its going to be at least for a while as we see how things go.

 
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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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If you're here to troll, get out of here. Or, write it on a piece of paper and throw it in the garbage can, cause I don't care. (That's where it belongs, so do me a favour too, DON'T recycle! )


The moderation here is, in my opinion, excellent. It makes it a nice place to visit, and to stick around for a while, too.

I have been really busy lately, so not posting here much at all, but I haven't been like everywhere but here. This is my favourite place, still.



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A1200 wrote:

There is???? I must have taken the blue pill.

Hi A1200,



The first one's a classic! I like 2 and 3 also, quite alot!!



Hi wegster,

Well, you've sure gone a long way. At first, I suspect all new members of wanting to "rock the boat" and cause trouble. I felt that way about you too.

But, you've always been fair in all of your criticisms, thus far. And you've been VERY patient in the trials and tribulations of acquiring, and making your machine work. I applaud your perseverance.

Amiga is moving up what is nearly a vertical slope of difficulty to "come into its' own".

I don't remember if you have previous Amiga experiences from your past, but it appears that you "get it", what it is that we're after in this most daunting project.


Okay, that may sound tacky, but, we're doing the near impossible, really.


Thanks for staying involved, and thanks to Wiffy for coming back in a bigger role, again .



Everyone who helps get this moving is a part of a world changing event.

 
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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
Posted on 15-May-2005 18:33:57
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That was his claim


looks like I opened a can of worms...
or was it Pandora's box


Anyway, all I'm saying is these rules are sufficiently vague as to let you drive a bus through them. That doesn't mean anyone will but it's exactly the sort of thing some of this sites detractor's will jump all over.

This doesn't affect me, I know this site has a certain "tint" and I respect that, I'm simply not interested in the Red V's Blue thing. Unfortunately not everyone agrees.

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As for keeping a forum open for it, yes it will become a fight club but you can keep it in one place off the front page and no one can complain that things can't be discussed. It's your choice, but why give fuel to your detractors?


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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Anyway, all I'm saying is these rules are sufficiently vague as to let you drive a bus through them. That doesn't mean anyone will but it's exactly the sort of thing some of this sites detractor's will jump all over.


They would jump no matter what was put in the rules.

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This doesn't affect me, I know this site has a certain "tint" and I respect that, I'm simply not interested in the Red V's Blue thing. Unfortunately not everyone agrees.


You know, I totally agree with you. I however am interested in AmigaOS version 4.0, well I would be, and that is what the site focus is - on AmigaOS. When I actively moderated I spent MORE of my time moderating daft baiting comments by 'reds' about the 'blue' side than anything else.

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As for keeping a forum open for it, yes it will become a fight club but you can keep it in one place off the front page and no one can complain that things can't be discussed. It's your choice, but why give fuel to your detractors?

Only the moderators and the person being moderated need to discuss it. No matter what we did the detractors would use it as fuel. Even if the threads were readonly to everyone else apart from moderator and person it just turns the whole thing into a popcorn chewing motorway pileup rubber necking incident and misses the point, which would be resolution of some kind or another.

WRT pandoras box, thats why the rule got added about commenting on specific moderation incidents - it just snowballs and nothing resolves. Take one or two people with an ego that see moderation as a threat to their manhood, or pecking order ( or visa versa as a way of establishing the manhood etc ) and put the discussion in public and you'll see more peacock feathers and testosterone than a gang of teenage boys just after they have discovered girls are more interesting than Hornby Railway.

 
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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
Posted on 15-May-2005 23:17:49
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are more interesting than Hornby Railway.


They are?


Ok, I'm on my way out...


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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if a moderator's say is final, why shouldn't a user's say be final, too?


t think it's just userfriendly that you can edit your message after posting it. Just remember that not all of us speak english as a native language. Sometimes you miss the errors even if you preview the message before posting it. I think that those forums which do not allow you to edit your message are just annoying.

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>> if a moderator's say is final, why shouldn't a user's say be final, too?

>I think it's just userfriendly that you can edit your message after posting it. Just remember that not all of us speak english as a native language. Sometimes you miss the errors even if you preview the message before posting it. I think that those forums which do not allow you to edit your message are just annoying.

Yes, but some people abuse the forums to vent off some steam, and then hide in the shrubberies after their insult has been landed. It's just too easy to click on reply and then to edit afterwards. My suggestion is a spell-checker. This would be easy to implement nowadays.


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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The once its been replied to ( directly ) it can't be edited by a user idea sounds great.

 
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@Oppressor

Yeah but if you use wrong words, then spellchecker don't help much. It happens to me sometimes that I have to change words or word order after I have posted my message.

I still think that it's not userfriendly if you can't edit your message.

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