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So booting with that thing with OS4 on it is not an option

That's exactly why I said OS4x and not OS4, I know it isn't an option yet, but if many of us thought it would be a good option, it probably could be.
If we Amigans wasn´t entitled to dream a little, there probably woulden't even be an AmigaOne.

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I don't get it. How this u3 thing is better than my Linux-on-USB? I take it, plug in in any x86 hardware and boot. Then I sit, work, reboot and that's it. I see no benefits at this point. What am I missing, guys?

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@opi

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I don't get it. How this u3 thing is better than my Linux-on-USB? I take it, plug in in any x86 hardware and boot. Then I sit, work, reboot and that's it. I see no benefits at this point. What am I missing, guys?

This should explain the idea:

http://www.u3.com/presskit/u3_faq_0505.pdf

I think that run-anywhere stuff like AA fits quite nicely in use with devices like that.

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This should explain the idea

Thanks, miksuh. But still, there's nothing I can not do now. Heck, new Slax can store your personal data on the web, so you could fetch it anytime. I can store a LiveUSB image (or an actual working Linux) with full read/write. Hotplug, devfs and kernel modules will deal with all the hardware.

Maybe I'm just to stupid to get it? I was never good at marketing-language.

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@opi

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Maybe I'm just to stupid to get it? I was never good at marketing-language.

No you are not stupid, It is only of use to windoze people.

If there is no embedded processor on these U3 devices which talk through an open API to the host OS, then it will be locked to x86 machines only, and of no use to AmigaOS4.0 ever.


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The point is, you no longer need to carry the OS around on your USB drive, just the applications and data. With AA it is possible that you can use the beforementioned applications and data across more than a single operating system, or even hardware platform.

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Good lord! This is the first time that I've *EVER* seen an announcement by Amiga Inc. which has been reciprocated on the partner's website...

http://www.u3.com/content.aspx?PS=software&PN=overview

Edit: Ack! HNL_DK posted the same link, but I didn't realise...

Can anyone understand what the following statement means, though?
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AACE removes the complicated download process by transmitting titles directly to the device or removable memory.

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Yep. This could be big step forward for the Amiga Inc, because as you can see in the FAQ all of the major USB memory manufacturers are going to support U3-devices.

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@IonMane

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BTW who is Gideon Shaanan?

See here...



A better question would be "who is Kate Purmal?" - she looks like a bit of a fox Also doesn't look old enough to have "more than 20 years of computer industry experience as an entrepreneur, corporate executive and independent consultant."...

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@ Chunder

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Good lord! This is the first time that I've *EVER* seen an announcement by Amiga Inc. which has been reciprocated on the partner's website...

Before Sendo ran into troubles with Microsoft, Sendo made the following announcement:
Amiga Anywhere And Amiga Content To Ship On The New Z100 Smartphone From Sendo

Or the Infomedia Network announced:
Amiga Inc. and Infomedia Network, Inc. Announce Strategic Relationship for new line of Set-Top Boxes

Interestingly they still list Amiga as a partner.

@MikeB

Doh!

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If we Amigans wasn´t entitled to dream a little, there probably woulden't even be an AmigaOne.

True!

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Also AInc - Nokia MediaTerminal deal was explained on the developer web site that was run by Nokia.

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Umm... So presumably....AA apps can run on the device...
But does it mean that there are actually AA apps to run on the device?
Or that you could build an AA app to run on the device?

Hell, In that case I have the perfect program for them and they never even allowed me to purchase an AA SDK. I really don't know what they want then.

Ok. Going back to my happy place now.

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@Herewegoagain

"...they are also re-establishing the name "Amiga" in the current market"

Ugh?!! U're joking ? AInc wants the Amiga name to be associated with something that has nothing to do with AmigaOS or the Amiga classic line... good for them, but I can't see how this would benefit us, quite the contrary, there would be lots of confusion and counter marketing ( who would take seriously an OS from a company that's known to make toy games for phone and alike ?) ....

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Look at Microsoft. Their OSes are used in everything from cell phones to game consoles to servers. Do people not take them seriously? So Amiga's current line of products have nothing to do with the classic Amiga and OS. Are they forever forbidden to produce anything but classic Amiga related products? Why such a narrow minded view of what they can produce and/or market?

Better take a trip down history lane and look where the original Amiga started. In that case, I guess the only thing that Amiga should be producing is Joystick peripherals and Atari 2600 games.

@Herewegoagain

"Look at Microsoft. Their OSes are used in everything from cell phones to game consoles to servers. Do people not take them seriously?"

Microsoft was known for OSes first so that argument is invalid.


" So Amiga's current line of products have nothing to do with the classic Amiga and OS. Are they forever forbidden to produce anything but classic Amiga related products? Why such a narrow minded view of what they can produce and/or market? "

Ught? Who said they're forbidden of anything Let me paraphrase that again: In my opinion the things they want the Amiga name to be known for (as stated from the CEO himself...) would counter market the classic or AmigaOS line. It's not like they even care anything but the name. Myabe I'm wrong maybe not, but fact of the matter is that as far as what concerns the Classic they're parasites, they have done nothing abou it, quite the contrary. Heck not even a single mention about AmigaOS on they're site and it's had so much advancements recently.


"Better take a trip down history lane and look where the original Amiga started. In that case, I guess the only thing that Amiga should be producing is Joystick peripherals and Atari 2600 games."

That must be why the Atari name was bough by a games distributor recently and also why the Amiga name in Europe is/was known generaly (read computer illiterates) for a toy computer to play games. Different situation in the US where they had the video toaster, there it's know (or was) as a professional computer in the video market.

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In my opinion the things they want the Amiga name to be known for (as stated from the CEO himself...) would counter market the classic or AmigaOS line.

How so? And in who's eyes? Probably those in our own community who have strong feelings of being "betrayed" by Amiga. But to the general public? Do they know the difference between AmigaAnywhere and AmigaOS. BTW, there is no future in the Classic Amiga line. Sorry, but it's true. Now the AmigaOS is a whole different thing. But to the general public who doesn't know what the Classic or current AmigaOS are, will they be more likely to look at AmigaOS after they have used "AmigaAnywhere" products that they liked? I think so. If they never used AmigaAnywhere products and then saw the AmigaOS, they may just say "never heard of it" and move on.

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Microsoft was known for OSes first so that argument is invalid.

How so? I don't see how that is an invalid point. Amiga was also best known for it's OS (and hardware). So you are saying that because Microsoft became a larger company, it's okay for them to do this? I don't see the logic. They were once a small company too. Do you think that Amiga will grow to be as big as Microsoft by marketing the AmigaOS and hardware? You really have a few suprises if you believe that. They have to market every single thing that they can put the name Amiga on and make it a household name before you can believe that they have any real chance at marketing the AmigaOS to the mass public. We are the die hard, dedicated fan base, but the rest of the world hardly even knows or remembers what Amiga is or was. Let them get some products to market to create a cash flow of income and when they are a big rich company, then you can bash them if they don't market the AmigaOS.

BTW Jose, I'm not challenging your opinion, just trying to clarify my own.

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