doesnt the X-box use more than 1 PPC chip? if so, IBM are selling a few more of em there

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No MicroA1C is Mk3. Mk2 is the prototype, it has some minor issue.

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Since Genesi just won Freescale's fair with best product, the 7448 is closer than ever!

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Then late 2006 add in Nintendo for another 10 million boxes per year

Historically, GC(already PPC) sells about 6 million per year (circa January 15, 2004).

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Poster: Mark Date: doesnt the X-box use more than 1 PPC chip? if so, IBM are selling a few more of em there

NO, Xbox360 uses 1 PPC chip with 3 cores running at 3.2 GHz each

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@ crumb

>Yeah, Pegasos III is Tundra based

No, the Tundra device is not PegasosIII. It's not a classic desktop computer.

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@ olegil

Last time I spoke to a freescale representive (last week) he said the 8641 is to await for Spring 2006.
Information on freescale's site is sufficent right now. It's a SoC architecture with one or two e600 cores (identical cores to the 7448).

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sn't the 8641 a dual core e600? The advantage with 7448, if I understood the specs right, is the it has an inbuilt DDR memory controller which supports the full speed of 200MHz. You can still use Articia S with it and utilise the full speed of the CPU because Articia S own memory controller wouldn't have to be used. Except for "talking" with PCI, AGP and other external units which don't go beyond 133MHz anyway. Or am I understanding this wrong?

The 7448 is the first cpu using teh new e600 core. It's fsb has been increased to 200 Mhz, but there is no inbuild memory controller. it is pin and binary comaptible to the 7447.

The ArticiaS would send the benefit of the increased FSB to NIL: (memory access would still run through the Articia), but still the 7448 would give a better performance due to doubled 2nd level cache and better Altivec.

The DiscoveryIII would be the northbridge of choice for this nice piece of silicon, the Tundra tsi108 suits well for a bit more lightweight solution.

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@Zylesea

Doh. Oh well. Good things are worth waiting for, though. Otherwise we wouldn't be here anyway

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@ Olegil

Yes - the 8641(d) will be phunky rock'n'roll. Fast, cheap and easy to implent systems for. Future is not looking too bad IMO...

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An AmigaOneXC with ArticaP, DDR333-Ram, 166 MHz FSB, with a MPC7448

I can't see any sense in using a non-existent northbridge for a non existing motherboard when you can use well tested technology like Tundra or DiscoveryIII.

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Now, if one of these could be "adapted" for my µA1...

The 200Mhz bus won't be fully used, but anyway it would be a nice addition.

7447A and 7448 are cheap, I can't see why Eyetech would prefer to use 750GX...

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No, the Tundra device is not PegasosIII. It's not a classic desktop computer.

1. I haven't said in any point that the Tundra device is a Pegasos III.

2. Pegasos III is Tundra based, you can like it or not.

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Yesterday heise.de reported that the 7448 at 1GHz costs 100$ each when buying 10000 (in words ten thousand!) pieces - http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/60858 (in german).

So I wonder how much 1000 pieces would costs? 200$ each or even more!?

@olegil: You should have visited the forum, as they had talks like "inside 8641" and "PCIe design" Maybe also available for download in the next days...

With "the tundra device" I meant the Pegasos derivate using the tundra
tsi108 not the Tundra itself (that has a name already: Tundra
TSI108). And the board using the tsi will most likely not be called
pegasosIII. It is an embedded design, not a host
computer.

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Am i wrong or in the past motorola said that 7448 shoul be capable of decoding via hardware the tcp header?
I'm sure i read it somewhere.

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7447A and 7448 are cheap, I can't see why Eyetech would prefer to use 750GX...

Because umm, the 750FX and GX are SO easy to get their hands on, as evidenced by the current uA1-C delays?

Not a clue, although changing CPUs would require another round or two of testing by Hyperion and the Beta-testers...

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Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!

Pegasos III will use the new Tundra northbridge, it has been stated various times by Genesi. You can believe what you want.

Discovery III won't be used on Pegasos III.

"And the board using the tsi will most likely not be called
pegasosIII. It is an embedded design, not a host
computer."

I haven't said in any point that the freescale board will be called Pegasos III. I understand that english is not my native language, but I think that I have been clear: Pegasos III will use the new Tundra northbridge too. It's not the same board. Is that clear enough?

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